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		<title>By: Jim Stegall</title>
		<link>http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2007/08/31/not-that-anyone-had-any-doubts/comment-page-1/#comment-2778</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Stegall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max, Andrea was just expressing herself.  She didn&#039;t mean for it to come out sour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, Andrea was just expressing herself.  She didn&#8217;t mean for it to come out sour.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2007/08/31/not-that-anyone-had-any-doubts/comment-page-1/#comment-2731</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, as far as I can tell breastfeeding is on the comeback.  We didn&#039;t need taxpayer dollars going to the gov&#039;t propaganda machine to inform people about the benefits of breastmilk. My little boy nurses and that was a choice our family made. But we didn&#039;t need the nanny state to tell us about the tradeoffs of formula. Heck, I was given formula -- as I&#039;m sure many of us were. 

Adam, Rob and the gang paint a rather ridiculous picture of life without THE GOVERNMENT STUDY as some shoot-em-up free-market freeforall in which babies end up drinking Mr. Burns slurry only to coughing up asthmatic rheum and inject themselves with insulin for the rest of their lives. (I&#039;ll pass over Adam&#039;s egregious causation-correlation problem in the above post.) 

In any event, I&#039;m sure there there are no shortage of Le Leche fetishists out there like my wife who will be happy to contribute resources to commission a study on the benefits of breastmilk. We don&#039;t need Uncle Sam to tell us what to feed our babies, nor do we need Andrea V to tell us. The internet accesses the Grand Canyon, after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, as far as I can tell breastfeeding is on the comeback.  We didn&#8217;t need taxpayer dollars going to the gov&#8217;t propaganda machine to inform people about the benefits of breastmilk. My little boy nurses and that was a choice our family made. But we didn&#8217;t need the nanny state to tell us about the tradeoffs of formula. Heck, I was given formula &#8212; as I&#8217;m sure many of us were. </p>
<p>Adam, Rob and the gang paint a rather ridiculous picture of life without THE GOVERNMENT STUDY as some shoot-em-up free-market freeforall in which babies end up drinking Mr. Burns slurry only to coughing up asthmatic rheum and inject themselves with insulin for the rest of their lives. (I&#8217;ll pass over Adam&#8217;s egregious causation-correlation problem in the above post.) </p>
<p>In any event, I&#8217;m sure there there are no shortage of Le Leche fetishists out there like my wife who will be happy to contribute resources to commission a study on the benefits of breastmilk. We don&#8217;t need Uncle Sam to tell us what to feed our babies, nor do we need Andrea V to tell us. The internet accesses the Grand Canyon, after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Stegall</title>
		<link>http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2007/08/31/not-that-anyone-had-any-doubts/comment-page-1/#comment-2724</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Stegall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How would you know, what any of us knows or doesn&#039;t know about breastfeeding?  We&#039;ve been discussing the propriety (or lack thereof) of government-sponsored commercials attacking baby formula.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How would you know, what any of us knows or doesn&#8217;t know about breastfeeding?  We&#8217;ve been discussing the propriety (or lack thereof) of government-sponsored commercials attacking baby formula.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea V</title>
		<link>http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2007/08/31/not-that-anyone-had-any-doubts/comment-page-1/#comment-2722</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What y&#039;all don&#039;t know about breastfeeding could fill the Grand Canyon.  Want to wrap this one up with a modicum of dignity?  Not that it&#039;s not amusing, but seriously...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What y&#8217;all don&#8217;t know about breastfeeding could fill the Grand Canyon.  Want to wrap this one up with a modicum of dignity?  Not that it&#8217;s not amusing, but seriously&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Stegall</title>
		<link>http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2007/08/31/not-that-anyone-had-any-doubts/comment-page-1/#comment-2721</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Stegall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;By encouraging breastfeeding, weâ€™ll save money for the health system, get more kids in school and ready to learn, and improve our health system.&quot;

A noble end indeed.  Let&#039;s just watch our means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;By encouraging breastfeeding, weâ€™ll save money for the health system, get more kids in school and ready to learn, and improve our health system.&#8221;</p>
<p>A noble end indeed.  Let&#8217;s just watch our means.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Searing</title>
		<link>http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2007/08/31/not-that-anyone-had-any-doubts/comment-page-1/#comment-2720</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Searing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the US Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality:

â€œWe found that a history of breastfeeding was associated with a reduction in the risk of acute otitis media, non-specific gastroenteritis, severe lower respiratory tract infections, atopic dermatitis, asthma (young children), obesity, type 1 and 2 diabetes, childhood leukemia, sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS), and necrotizing enterocolitis. There was no relationship between breastfeeding in term infants and cognitive performance.
The relationship between breastfeeding and cardiovascular diseases was unclear. Similarly, it was also unclear concerning the relationship between breastfeeding and infant mortality in developed countries.â€

On the infant mortality scale, Iâ€™ll just note that the US ranks at an embarrassingly high level -- we do a significantly worse job than places like  Portugal or Malta.

Looks to me like the debate should be about how to keep more kids healthy in the US.  

By encouraging breastfeeding, weâ€™ll save money for the health system, get more kids in school and ready to learn, and improve our health system.   Thereâ€™s no reason the United States has to accept being anything less than number one in the world on this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the US Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality:</p>
<p>â€œWe found that a history of breastfeeding was associated with a reduction in the risk of acute otitis media, non-specific gastroenteritis, severe lower respiratory tract infections, atopic dermatitis, asthma (young children), obesity, type 1 and 2 diabetes, childhood leukemia, sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS), and necrotizing enterocolitis. There was no relationship between breastfeeding in term infants and cognitive performance.<br />
The relationship between breastfeeding and cardiovascular diseases was unclear. Similarly, it was also unclear concerning the relationship between breastfeeding and infant mortality in developed countries.â€</p>
<p>On the infant mortality scale, Iâ€™ll just note that the US ranks at an embarrassingly high level &#8212; we do a significantly worse job than places like  Portugal or Malta.</p>
<p>Looks to me like the debate should be about how to keep more kids healthy in the US.  </p>
<p>By encouraging breastfeeding, weâ€™ll save money for the health system, get more kids in school and ready to learn, and improve our health system.   Thereâ€™s no reason the United States has to accept being anything less than number one in the world on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Stegall</title>
		<link>http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2007/08/31/not-that-anyone-had-any-doubts/comment-page-1/#comment-2718</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Stegall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Breath the air in China - thatâ€™s the quality of the unfettered free market.&quot;
 
On what planet is there a China that is in ANY sense (especially economic) &quot;free?&quot;

At least Rob understands that formula isn&#039;t poison.  Now if he could only grasp why it&#039;s not good policy for government to effectively lie to the public (know why they call &#039;em &quot;edgier?&quot;  They&#039;re right on the edge of deception) about a product that has a useful, albiet limited, role.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Breath the air in China &#8211; thatâ€™s the quality of the unfettered free market.&#8221;</p>
<p>On what planet is there a China that is in ANY sense (especially economic) &#8220;free?&#8221;</p>
<p>At least Rob understands that formula isn&#8217;t poison.  Now if he could only grasp why it&#8217;s not good policy for government to effectively lie to the public (know why they call &#8216;em &#8220;edgier?&#8221;  They&#8217;re right on the edge of deception) about a product that has a useful, albiet limited, role.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Searing</title>
		<link>http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2007/08/31/not-that-anyone-had-any-doubts/comment-page-1/#comment-2717</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Searing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there any women commenting here?  Just interested...

My two cents - sure, some mothers can&#039;t breastfeed, but as any pediatrician will tell you, it&#039;s the best option if you can - even if you supplement with formula.  The benefits are tremendous.  

Conservatives are getting beaten up enough these days.  You&#039;d think they&#039;d want their kids to have every advantage to rebuild the movement, but I guess here it&#039;s just another case of ideology triumphing over common sense.

Finally, another major issue with breastfeeding is a class one.  Work in a hourly-wage job and you have few opportunities to pump milk for your kid.  Work at the same company&#039;s headquarters in the executive suite and they may have a special &quot;lactation room&quot; set aside for you.  Seems like more opportunities for women in the workforce to be able to breastfeed should be a key component of reform too.

The NYT did a nice article on the issue last year:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/01/health/01nurse.html?ex=1189051200&amp;en=e0897ec4538fa90a&amp;ei=5070</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there any women commenting here?  Just interested&#8230;</p>
<p>My two cents &#8211; sure, some mothers can&#8217;t breastfeed, but as any pediatrician will tell you, it&#8217;s the best option if you can &#8211; even if you supplement with formula.  The benefits are tremendous.  </p>
<p>Conservatives are getting beaten up enough these days.  You&#8217;d think they&#8217;d want their kids to have every advantage to rebuild the movement, but I guess here it&#8217;s just another case of ideology triumphing over common sense.</p>
<p>Finally, another major issue with breastfeeding is a class one.  Work in a hourly-wage job and you have few opportunities to pump milk for your kid.  Work at the same company&#8217;s headquarters in the executive suite and they may have a special &#8220;lactation room&#8221; set aside for you.  Seems like more opportunities for women in the workforce to be able to breastfeed should be a key component of reform too.</p>
<p>The NYT did a nice article on the issue last year:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/01/health/01nurse.html?ex=1189051200&amp;en=e0897ec4538fa90a&amp;ei=5070" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/01/health/01nurse.html?ex=1189051200&amp;en=e0897ec4538fa90a&amp;ei=5070</a></p>
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		<title>By: ncpolitics</title>
		<link>http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2007/08/31/not-that-anyone-had-any-doubts/comment-page-1/#comment-2716</link>
		<dc:creator>ncpolitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Handcuffed the invisible hand? 

Breath the air in China - that&#039;s the quality of the unfettered free market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Handcuffed the invisible hand? </p>
<p>Breath the air in China &#8211; that&#8217;s the quality of the unfettered free market.</p>
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		<title>By: krm0517</title>
		<link>http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2007/08/31/not-that-anyone-had-any-doubts/comment-page-1/#comment-2714</link>
		<dc:creator>krm0517</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys love to blame industry for spending too much money to influence policy and claim that we need more laws to control the free market.  The irony is that it is precisely because we have so much government interference in the free market that it becomes necessary for industry to spend money in order to protect the interests of its employees and customers.  You guys have handcuffed the invisible hand and then try to claim the free market has failed.  We need less government and more free flow of ideas and information so that consumers can decide what ventures fail or succeed and less government interference that does nothing but distort the market and lead to poor choices (both public and private).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys love to blame industry for spending too much money to influence policy and claim that we need more laws to control the free market.  The irony is that it is precisely because we have so much government interference in the free market that it becomes necessary for industry to spend money in order to protect the interests of its employees and customers.  You guys have handcuffed the invisible hand and then try to claim the free market has failed.  We need less government and more free flow of ideas and information so that consumers can decide what ventures fail or succeed and less government interference that does nothing but distort the market and lead to poor choices (both public and private).</p>
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