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Apology…Not

Post on December 11, 2007 by 5 Comments »

I realize now that my recent comments regarding racism and the anti-immigration zealots may have been misconstrued.  Please accept this apology:

I never meant to say that Conservatives are generally racist.  I meant to say that racists are generally conservative.

There now!  I hope I've cleared up that misunderstanding.  One has to be careful not to paint with too broad a brush.  I will not recant the most important point, however:  Republican operatives are all too willing to exploit our worst character traits in order to win elections and/or aggregate wealth.

I must confess…like most of my good ideas, I have stolen this one from someone else.  Some of you may have recognized in my apology this famous quote from British intellectual John Stuart Mill (1806-1873):

I never meant to say that Conservatives are generally stupid.  I meant to say that stupid people are generally conservative.  I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.

 The tradition of civil discourse lives on at the Progressive Pulse.

Addendum: Thanks, too, to Eric Alterman for the John Stuart Mill quote from his new book Why We're Liberals.

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  1. anglico
    December 11, 2007 at 1:16 pm

    Glad that’s cleared up.

  2. Pirate
    December 11, 2007 at 1:49 pm

    John Stuart Mill on trying to silence your opponent in a debate:
    “We can never be sure that the opinion we are endeavouring to stifle is a false opinion; and even if we were sure, stifling it would be an evil still.”

    John Stuart Mill was a Classic Liberal philosopher. The conservatives he was referring to were monachists. The conservatives of today in these United States are the people who still believe in the ideas of men like John Locke and John Stuart Mill. The beliefs of modern liberals are wildly different from the beliefs of classical liberalism.

    John Stuart Mill on individualism:
    “Whatever crushes individuality is despotism, by whatever name it may be called and whether it professes to be enforcing the will of God or the injunctions of men.”

    John Stuart Mill on limited government:
    “The most cogent reason for restricting the interference of government is the great evil of adding unnecessarily to its power.”

    John Stuart Mill on liberty:
    “That the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not sufficient warrant. He cannot rightfully be compelled to do or forbear because it will be better for him to do so, because it will make him happier, because, in the opinion of others, to do so would be wise, or even right…The only part of the conduct of anyone, for which he is amenable to society, is that which concerns others. In the part which merely concerns himself, his independence is, of right, absolute. Over himself, over his own body and mind, the individual is sovereign.”

    John Stuart Mill on war:
    “”War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.”

  3. Pirate
    December 11, 2007 at 2:19 pm

    Repost:

    Pop Quiz: What is more racist:

    1) Believing that all people are created equal and should be at liberty to pursue their dreams and keep the fruits of their labor; or

    2) Believing that minorities are incapable of achieving success unless “White America” gives them a helping hand?

  4. sturner
    December 11, 2007 at 2:19 pm

    Suffice to say that Mill has proven to be eminently quotable for both modern day liberals and conservatives.

    As for me? Mostly I was looking for a humorous and convenient vehicle to observe that people who exhibit racism and ignorance are “generally conservative.”

  5. Brian
    December 11, 2007 at 5:08 pm

    Unfortunately for you sturner, you display your ignorance by not understanding what Mill meant by “conservative” at the time of his quote. (as Pirate pointed out)

    I would also say that an inability to rationally discuss an issue and instead opt to hide behind grade-school name calling displays ignorance.

    Did you open up that free clinic yet in order to fulfill your “moral obligation”?