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Expelling Josiah

Post on December 12, 2007 by 3 Comments »

Ryan Teague Beckwith at Dome back in May gave a little information on Josiah Turner of Orange County, the last member of the NC General Assembly expelled from office.  He apparently called the Speaker a “gander head.”  As an Orange County native, this got my interest, especially with The Insider’s noting this fact again this morning.  Josiah was quite a pain in many ways apparently as this paragraph from a 1878 NYT story (interesting they covered Congressional politics at the state level in such detail back then) shows:

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  1. Not Disclosed
    December 13, 2007 at 9:15 am

    Yes, why would a New York newspaper spend valuable ink on a southern politician its readers couldn’t vote for?
    There are a couple of reasons:
    First, realize that this is the New York Times of 1878, eight years before Adolf Ochs purchased it and nine years before he would coin the slogan “All the News That’s Fit to Print.”
    In the 1870s, the NYT was a Republican paper in a Democratic town. Once of the quirks of U.S. political geography in the mid- and late 19th century was that the Democratic Party’s strength was in the South and in New York.
    The NYT of the 1870s brought down York’s Democratic Tammany Hall machine with several searing exposes.
    An item like this would be right up the editor’s alley — it’s short, funny and pokes great fun at Tammany’s Democratic cousins in North Carolina.
    If this happened today, you’d bet newspapers across the nation would print it — and the video would be tops on YouTube.

  2. Adam Searing
    December 13, 2007 at 11:51 am

    That’s interesting – so politicians in New York had an interest in making the Ds there look bad, so they made sure there was good coverage of antics like this in the South where there were plenty of Ds so that would make the party look sort of silly overall?

    Easy access to the 1800s NYT archive is fascinating – thanks for some more analysis.

  3. Kirschy122
    February 21, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    POLITICAL CORRUPTION!

    It all started with Marcy Boss Tweed, otherwise known as Boss Tweed. He was born on April 3, 1823. In New York City, New York. During his lifetime he had many jobs. Such as Chairman, book keeper, member of his father’s brush-man firm, and a volunteer fireman. After he had finished doing all that he became a alderman in 1851 in New York City. He was an educated man. He attended public school and learned chair making as a trade. He had also, accomplished a lot in his time. He built his power in Tammany Hall. Through his election of friends called the “Tweed Ring.” He lost 30-200 million dollars for New York. He was also elected to the U.S. House of Representative in 1852. He was then elected into the New York board of advisors in 1856. He became a New York state senator in 1867, and forced the passage of the New York city charter in 1870. He was also a very significant man. He took control of all democratic New York State and City nominations in 1860 and ended in 1870. He illegally forced the election he wanted for the New York governor, mayor, and speaker of assembly. He got caught for many of his deeds and was convicted and sent to prison. He then escaped from jail and ran away to Spain. He was identified in Spain by a cartoon that Thomas Nast had drawn. He then was returned to the New York and was put in prison. He died April 12, 1878 in the New York jail. Do you know what happened at Tammany Hall? The Tweed Ring had swindled 75-200 million dollars from the Tammany Machines. Everyone had known that the tweed ring was not full of very good people so everyone expected it to be them.