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Got Gas?

Post on September 26, 2008 by 6 Comments »

I can't help but think that there are many more days of queuing for gas in the future for all of us unless we kick the internal combustion engine habit. With demand increasing exponentially in south and east Asia, new discoveries stalling (and drilling off-shore isn't going to help – by the time that oil comes on stream it will be a literal drop in the bucket), and continued security worries in the Middle East, gas prices look to be on a permanent upward steepening price curve.

So whether it is because supply is interrupted or because a local station has cut prices a few cents to boost sales, the pump queue is looking to be a increasingly prominent feature of our lives. I was in Australia recently where gas is well over US$6 a gallon, and a few cents savings produced long queues. How much do you think waiting to fill up the SUV will cost the US in lost productivity by 2020?

It's enough to make you want to catch a bus or a train…

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  1. Anti-Publius
    September 28, 2008 at 12:18 am

    Stephen, you simply miss the beauty of a free market. When prices fluctuate creative destruction spreads through the specified market, in this case- private transportation. Your distaste for one of the most important creations in world history can be dismissed upon the price of refined gasoline going through the roof.

    Unfortunately, you also miss the necessity of the ‘engine’. The technology for alternate fuels/energy is simply non existent. The world needs a ‘bridge’ or time to develop these tools- thus the need for off-shore drilling, wind, solar, and nuclear. I believe all Americans support these items and especially citizens of NC.

    Actually, tests have shown that oil contamination off the shore of California is due to natural hazards- oil is seeping up through the Pacific Ocean floor and lapping on the beaches of the West Coast. This oil could be harvested from the depths less than 50 miles off the coast, potentially in the next two years since the congressional ban has lapsed and if the California Gov’t would allow this.

    Also, in the Great Society that is California, a research organization has found that certain ‘bugs’ can excrete gasoline- fancy that!

    Finally, Gov. Easley’s price cap on retail gasoline has had a negative effect in Western NC. As you have read, many in Charlotte and Asheville have been waiting in rather long lines simply because the wholesale price of gasoline is drastically higher than the retailer without a supplier contract can sell it for. Thus, the gas station does not buy the gas for it he/she did, they would be selling for a net loss.

    And yes bus or train would be great, ONLY if the true cost was realized.

  2. Stephen
    September 29, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    I don’t think I was making any case re: the free market, although it is nice that Anti-Publius acknowledges the free market is a creation. The state too, I guess.

    Drilling now won’t do anything for gas prices in the short or medium term, and long-term downward pressure on prices looks doubtful given the overall supply (not much more) versus demand (Asia demand massively increasing) picture.

  3. Max
    September 29, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    Not so, Stephen. Drilling can do wonders for the short term, as “speculators” see the potential for new reserves coming online, they will likely bid down the price per barrel today, affecting pump prices today.

    But the commenter above is also right. In a market (which is not a creation, but an emerge property of certain institutions that are arguably a human creation/construct), you get the best and most cost-effective alternative winning. So whether we power our cars with batteries+nuclear, or natural gas, or whatever … may the best source win. That won’t happen under your “send-in-the-bureaucrats” model. It’s free market fundamentals (not fundamentalism).

    In fact, if you were familiar with evolutionary theory and complex adaptive systems, you’d agree. But then again, lefties usually mock those who don’t believe in evolution, then turn around and prescribe economic Intelligent Design in every other sphere of life. A phenomenon I find truly bizarre. (It leads me to believe lefties believe evolution more out of groupthink than anything else. But I digress.)

  4. Fred
    September 29, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    Creative destruction! Is that what they call economic collapes these days?

  5. gregflynn
    September 30, 2008 at 8:22 am

    If pump prices could be affected by the “potential” of 200,000 barrels per day in the OCS they would already have been affected by the 500,000 barrels per day promised by the Saudis by the end of this year. The recent shortages were caused by oil companies capping supply, not by price caps. Last year we exported 1,400,000 barrels per day. This year we’ve been exporting at a rate of 1,800,000 barrels per day, nine times the “potential” of the proposed OCS production.

  6. Jack Lang
    October 8, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    Max,

    Nice high school debate style you got working there.