Comments on: Gun Violence is Preventable http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/04/09/gun-violence-is-preventable/ Affecting NC public policy through informed, energetic and progressive conversations. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:02:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Nate http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/04/09/gun-violence-is-preventable/#comment-42038 Nate Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:31:23 +0000 http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/?p=4811#comment-42038 http://os.cqpress.com/rankings/CrimeStateRankings_2009.pdf Wake up! New Hampshire has the lowest crime rate in the country. Take a look at ther Gun Laws! http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/a/gunlaws_nh.htm When a criminal knows there is likely to be a gun in the home, the criminal is less likely to breakin. If the criminal knows a person is likely to carry a gun, the criminal is less likely to mug or attack. Look at Vermont (2nd lowest) No permit to purchase or carry! http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/f/gunlaw_vt.htm Maine 3rd lowest Permit to purchase handgun? No Registration of handguns? No Licensing of owners of handguns? No Permit to carry handguns? Yes http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/a/gunlaws_me.htm http://os.cqpress.com/rankings/CrimeStateRankings_2009.pdf

Wake up! New Hampshire has the lowest crime rate in the country.
Take a look at ther Gun Laws!
http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/a/gunlaws_nh.htm
When a criminal knows there is likely to be a gun in the home, the criminal is less likely to breakin. If the criminal knows a person is likely to carry a gun, the criminal is less likely to mug or attack.

Look at Vermont (2nd lowest)
No permit to purchase or carry!
http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/f/gunlaw_vt.htm

Maine 3rd lowest
Permit to purchase handgun? No
Registration of handguns? No
Licensing of owners of handguns? No
Permit to carry handguns? Yes
http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/a/gunlaws_me.htm

]]> By: DKA http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/04/09/gun-violence-is-preventable/#comment-34015 DKA Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:37:43 +0000 http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/?p=4811#comment-34015 Guns do not kill nearly as many people as automobiles do, and don't hear any of the liberals screaming to outlaw automobiles. Does not take a Rocket Scientist to figure out that almost all of the Mass Killings take place in Gun Free Zones. The nuts know that they are basically safe to do whatever they want there and that no one has any means of protecting themselves. Let's get real people. Think that a law should be passed that every citizen must possess a gun of some type. Bet the crime rate would be cut in half. Guns do not kill nearly as many people as automobiles do, and don’t hear any of the liberals screaming to outlaw automobiles. Does not take a Rocket Scientist to figure out that almost all of the Mass Killings take place in Gun Free Zones. The nuts know that they are basically safe to do whatever they want there and that no one has any means of protecting themselves. Let’s get real people. Think that a law should be passed that every citizen must possess a gun of some type. Bet the crime rate would be cut in half.

]]> By: t.k. http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/04/09/gun-violence-is-preventable/#comment-33981 t.k. Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:55:16 +0000 http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/?p=4811#comment-33981 How does anyone know where the guns used by the Cartels in Mexico come from???? The Mexican Government has refused to allow the release of the serial numbers of these guns. Furthermore, an individual just cannot LEGALLY waltz across the border into Mexico with guns, legally obtained or not.....so how are we to expect that the Mexican cartel gun runners are going to obey the law when we Americans so conveniently give up our 2nd Amendment rights "to save Mexico". Duuuhhhhhhhhh. But don't hold your breath because we aren't giving in. How does anyone know where the guns used by the Cartels in Mexico come from???? The Mexican Government has refused to allow the release of the serial numbers of these guns. Furthermore, an individual just cannot LEGALLY waltz across the border into Mexico with guns, legally obtained or not…..so how are we to expect that the Mexican cartel gun runners are going to obey the law when we Americans so conveniently give up our 2nd Amendment rights “to save Mexico”. Duuuhhhhhhhhh. But don’t hold your breath because we aren’t giving in.

]]> By: t.k. http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/04/09/gun-violence-is-preventable/#comment-33979 t.k. Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:50:30 +0000 http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/?p=4811#comment-33979 Did a so called "assault weapon" even figure in these recent shootings? I know the NC shooter carried a shotgun....the Citizen ship shooter carried a handgun...... Seems like the left wants assault weapons to be banned so badly they've taken to lying about how often they are used in crimes...sad but nothing new. Did a so called “assault weapon” even figure in these recent shootings? I know the NC shooter carried a shotgun….the Citizen ship shooter carried a handgun……

Seems like the left wants assault weapons to be banned so badly they’ve taken to lying about how often they are used in crimes…sad but nothing new.

]]> By: mike http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/04/09/gun-violence-is-preventable/#comment-33960 mike Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:33:50 +0000 http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/?p=4811#comment-33960 When are yall going to point out that these shootings are happening in "gun free" zones?? Basically these zones mean that only criminals are allowed to carry guns there. When are yall going to point out that these shootings are happening in “gun free” zones?? Basically these zones mean that only criminals are allowed to carry guns there.

]]> By: IBXer http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/04/09/gun-violence-is-preventable/#comment-33915 IBXer Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:01:44 +0000 http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/?p=4811#comment-33915 Daniel is right. There is no such thing as gun violence. People who are sick in the head and want to kill people will find a means. If you take away a person's ability to get access to a gun you might be preventing a Columbine but you are probably creating a McVeigh. Daniel is right. There is no such thing as gun violence. People who are sick in the head and want to kill people will find a means. If you take away a person’s ability to get access to a gun you might be preventing a Columbine but you are probably creating a McVeigh.

]]> By: Daniel http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/04/09/gun-violence-is-preventable/#comment-33792 Daniel Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:34:30 +0000 http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/?p=4811#comment-33792 Violence committed by one person against another person is reprehensible whether using bare hands, stick, pipe, knife, shovel or firearm. In short there is no such thing as "gun violence". This term concentrates too much attention to the tool instead of the person. We should be discussing violence committed by people using weapons including guns. In many cases if the laws we presently have on record are enforced, and we have proper inter-agency communication, there will be less violence with guns. Because most, but not all, crimes with guns are committed by people who possess the firearm illegally. Look, people commit violence against people because they think they have low risk. With "no firearm" policies, they have a pretty good idea that people who obey laws will not carry weapons where they are not permitted. Makes illicit target selection just that much easier. I work at an establishment with big signs in many places that state "no firearms of any kind allowed". Take a second and think like a criminal might think. Will these signs stop me from entering with my illegally possessed gun? Roxanne makes the point about legislators assisting law enforcement in providing safe environments. Surely, one would not expect police to protect against all crimes unless each of us has our own personal officer with us around the clock. It should be obvious that law enforcement agencies concentrate of solving crime first and crime prevention after that. Why, because they are rarely around to stop the types of events that are considered in this legislation. Cases in point are the recent events Roxanne mentions. The police were not around. How many lives might have been saved in these locations if just one law abiding person had been carrying a pistol. It is possible the only person that would have been harmed in these instances would have been the criminal. In this country there is a very basic right to bear arms. Of course it is to protect life and home. But, the right is in place primarily to protect our American freedoms from government tyranny. We really need to think anti gun laws through completely. Violence committed by one person against another person is reprehensible whether using bare hands, stick, pipe, knife, shovel or firearm. In short there is no such thing as “gun violence”. This term concentrates too much attention to the tool instead of the person. We should be discussing violence committed by people using weapons including guns.
In many cases if the laws we presently have on record are enforced, and we have proper inter-agency communication, there will be less violence with guns. Because most, but not all, crimes with guns are committed by people who possess the firearm illegally.

Look, people commit violence against people because they think they have low risk. With “no firearm” policies, they have a pretty good idea that people who obey laws will not carry weapons where they are not permitted. Makes illicit target selection just that much easier. I work at an establishment with big signs in many places that state “no firearms of any kind allowed”. Take a second and think like a criminal might think. Will these signs stop me from entering with my illegally possessed gun?

Roxanne makes the point about legislators assisting law enforcement in providing safe environments. Surely, one would not expect police to protect against all crimes unless each of us has our own personal officer with us around the clock. It should be obvious that law enforcement agencies concentrate of solving crime first and crime prevention after that. Why, because they are rarely around to stop the types of events that are considered in this legislation. Cases in point are the recent events Roxanne mentions. The police were not around. How many lives might have been saved in these locations if just one law abiding person had been carrying a pistol. It is possible the only person that would have been harmed in these instances would have been the criminal.

In this country there is a very basic right to bear arms. Of course it is to protect life and home. But, the right is in place primarily to protect our American freedoms from government tyranny.

We really need to think anti gun laws through completely.

]]> By: Radio4All http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/04/09/gun-violence-is-preventable/#comment-33775 Radio4All Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:55:29 +0000 http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/?p=4811#comment-33775 too bad that Raleigh Television Network still doesnt carry Democracy Now. nany would have liked to hear you Roxanne too bad that Raleigh Television Network still doesnt carry Democracy Now. nany would have liked to hear you Roxanne

]]> By: CtrlZ http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/04/09/gun-violence-is-preventable/#comment-33745 CtrlZ Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:40:52 +0000 http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/?p=4811#comment-33745 Roxane, You are right in saying gun violece is an epidemic and what was started in America has been spreading. While listing to your interview on Democracy Now couldnt help but think of a recent article by Mark Ames. You can find here http://exiledonline.com/alabama-shootings-just-another-bloody-battle-in-americas-thirty-years-class-war/ Better regulated gun control agreed is a good step but more deeper understanding and education on violence in America should be addressed. Roxane,
You are right in saying gun violece is an epidemic and what was started in America has been spreading.
While listing to your interview on Democracy Now couldnt help but think of a recent article by Mark Ames. You can find here http://exiledonline.com/alabama-shootings-just-another-bloody-battle-in-americas-thirty-years-class-war/

Better regulated gun control agreed is a good step but more deeper understanding and education on violence in America should be addressed.

]]> By: Rob Schofield http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/04/09/gun-violence-is-preventable/#comment-33735 Rob Schofield Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:26:14 +0000 http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/?p=4811#comment-33735 Xlnt post Roxanne. You're right in highlighting the dangerous proliferation of dangerous firearms in our country and the complete lack of vision and courgage from elected officials (even when law enforcement officals ask them to help!). Heck, it's largely American guns that are being used in the Mexican drug wars. There's a great new export for our economy. I'm just waiting for some legislator to introduce a bill authorizing "concealed carry" for nursing home residents and people who visit government offices. Xlnt post Roxanne. You’re right in highlighting the dangerous proliferation of dangerous firearms in our country and the complete lack of vision and courgage from elected officials (even when law enforcement officals ask them to help!). Heck, it’s largely American guns that are being used in the Mexican drug wars. There’s a great new export for our economy.

I’m just waiting for some legislator to introduce a bill authorizing “concealed carry” for nursing home residents and people who visit government offices.

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