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Post on August 12, 2009 by 12 Comments »

One of the best places to get the actual truth about the health care debate is at, of all places, the White House website where they’ve set up a new page (no doubt inspired by NC Policy Watch) called “Reality Check.” After a near decade in which most of us had come to understand that the White House was the place to go for disinformation and confusion, it’s remarkably refreshing to hear and see the President’s very smart and talented staffers talk straight in brief, easily digestible video clips about what’s really under discussion and what’s not.

The website also provides links to clips of the Prez himself in which he makes things about as clear as they can be. These clips ought, once and for all, to debunk the absurd myth being propagated by people like Senator Richard Burr, that “President Obama is supporting a plan that will provide for a government run health care system.”

Indeed, it would be great if some responsible news media representative could get the Trickster himself to sit down in a room and force him to watch the President say these words:

Here’s the guarantee that I’ve made: If you have insurance that you like, then you will be able to keep that insurance. If you’ve got a doctor that you like, you will be able to keep your doctor. Nobody is trying to change what works in the system. We are trying to change what doesn’t work in the system.”

And these:

The public plan, I think, is an important tool to discipline insurance companies. What we’ve said is, under our proposal, let’s have a system – the same way that federal employees do, the same way the members of Congress do, where…we call it an “exchange,” but you can call it a marketplace, where, essentially, you’ve got a whole bunch of different plans. If you like your plan and you like your doctor, you won’t have to do a thing. You keep your plan. You keep your doctor. If your employer’s providing you good health insurance, terrific – we’re not gonna’ mess with it.”

Could it actually be that one remedy for the nation’s latest bout with irrational panic and paranoia (and the rabid fear mongers who egg it on) might involve citizens sitting and calmly listening to the actual words of the nation’s leader?

I know it’s a radical idea, but why don’t we give it a try?

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  1. gregflynn
    August 12, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    If you like your plan and you like your doctor, you won’t have to do a thing. You keep your plan. You keep your doctor. If your employer’s providing you good health insurance, terrific – we’re not gonna’ mess with it

  2. Rob Schofield
    August 12, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    “Individual freedom” to do what? Die? Go bankrupt? The freedom to do whatever Blue Cross Blue Shield tells us to do?

    Are Medicare participants “less free” because of their particpation in that successful and popular program?

    The claim that health care reform is somehow a threat to “freedom” is among the most absurd of all the nutty complaints lodged by the status quo defenders.It ranks right up there with the extreme right’s Cold War era obsession with flouridation

    As for the “King George” references, I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. The only would-be/wannabe King George we’ve had in this country of late is a feckless and spoiled rich boy who couldn’t couldn’t spell “Constitution” much less understand or defend it.

  3. gregflynn
    August 12, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Fact: Private health insurance not banned

    Individual policies will continue to be available, but people will buy those policies through the national health insurance exchange, which will ensure that people with pre-existing conditions will be able to get coverage. The House bill also allows for existing policies to be grandfathered in, so individual purchasers who like their coverage will be able to keep it.

    What is the insurance exchange?

    The health insurance exchange is a marketplace that will offer affordable high-quality health insurance options. It will provide relief to families who have no insurance or do not get adequate insurance at work and cannot afford to buy it in the costly individual or small group market. It is also for small businesses that cannot afford small group health insurance. It is one-stop shopping that will enable you and your family to find a plan that is right for you. For workers at big companies with group coverage, you can keep what you have with new protections against unfair insurance regulations that could limit your coverage if you get sick. And if you lose your job, move or decide to leave that company, you will know that there will be high-quality affordable health insurance options available for you on the exchange.

    Read the Consumer Protections page

    No Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions
    Insurance companies will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your medical history.
    No Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-Pays
    Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much they can charge for out-of-pocket expenses.
    No Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care
    Insurance companies must fully cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you prevent illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.
    No Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill
    Insurance companies will be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage for those who become seriously ill.
    No Gender Discrimination
    Insurance companies will be prohibited from charging you more because of your gender.
    No Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage
    Insurance companies will be prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you receive.
    Extended Coverage for Young Adults
    Children would continue to be eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.
    Guaranteed Insurance Renewal
    Insurance companies will be required to renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in full. Insurance companies won’t be allowed to refuse renewal because someone became sick.

  4. Lou Meyers
    August 12, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Opponents say you won’t be able to keep your insurance when the public option becomes available. Why not? if you have a individual plan like Blue Advantage and you are happy with it, no one is going to force you to give it up?

    Yes, if you are under a group plan, your employer may choose to switch insurance or even drop it———but he can do that now! So what’s the problem? Seems if a more affordable option is available for your employer to purchase, especially during these tough times, the more likely he will continue to offer you group coverage.

    Besides, if you like your plan now, you’ll like it even more once the public option forces the insurance company to improve it!

  5. Rob B
    August 12, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    Jonathan, are you suggesting that you’d be open to any suggestion Obama made? Because you wouldn’t be.

    And the between”sticking with what you’ve got” or going on an affordable plan has one more option than the current system, which is to “stick with what you’ve got,” be it an employee-provided health care company that screws you or absolutely nothing.

    And why can’t tyranny come in the form of big business? Why is it that anything the government does is tyrannical? Did you feel the same way when W was in power and performing illegal wiretaps and launching illegal wars? I have a feeling you didn’t, but if you did, maybe we could agree on a few things, afterall.

    Also, do any employers provide spouses for people? Or even food? No, they don’t. Your string of hypotheticals was completely void of logic and they suggest that you don’t know how you really feel about anything going on in this debate.

  6. Kimberly
    August 13, 2009 at 7:50 am

    Well said Rob, Lou, and Gregg! I would like to also point out that millions of Americans are physically suffering due to lack of access to affordable health care. Families and individuals are having to make a choice between buying food for the month or more or buying medical care, paying their mortgage or paying for health insurance if you don’t have a pre-existing condition and if you do have a pre-existing condition then it is paying for medical care. The individual sacrifices that parents make to obtain health insurance for their children with special health care needs have lasting effects on the family and some of those sacrifices result in death of a parent.

    The anti-Health Care Reform crowd had no problem with funding the war and giving ultimate power and authority to Bush Jr. which has resulted in our current deficit, economy, loss of human lives, and so much more. But yet they don’t agree with fixing a system that puts profit over human lives and causes needless suffering of American citizens.

    I could write pages on how they are absolutely incredibly wrong on this issue.

  7. Louie
    August 13, 2009 at 9:43 am

    when will the insurance industry A&U tactic of assessing those applying for their plans be BANNED? SEPT 1st?

    I hope my cancer doesnt reoccur. Will Obama make it possible for me to get affordable coverage NOW? Inquring minds want to know.

  8. Louie
    August 13, 2009 at 9:44 am

    call some insurance companies and ask them when they think pre-existing conditions will be banned?

  9. Quizzical
    August 13, 2009 at 10:08 am

    Louie, the answer will be “when everyone has coverage.”

    I’m amused by greggflynn’s posts above listing Obama quotes as “proof” of what reform will do. Let’s remember that there is, as of yet, no Obama plan per se. There are only several competing approaches in various committees. The NY Times is convinced that the Senate plan is where the real action is and that White House has already made deals to take public plan off the table there (though co-opts might fly).

    The White House pages listing general principles and important consumer protections are guesses, or maybe suggestions abut the final direction of the reform bill. They do not have the force of law. So quit quoting them as proof of anything except what positions Obama’s people think are safe based on their poll research.

    Link to Times article:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/health/policy/13health.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

  10. Jonathan
    August 13, 2009 at 10:18 am

    Rob says: “Die? Go bankrupt? The freedom to do whatever Blue Cross Blue Shield tells us to do? ”
    – No, the freedom to do whatever they want to, so long as no force is being used against them, and they are using no force against anyone else. Individual freedom to choose how they want to care for their own body. To choose between “BCBS” or to simply hire their own private doctor and work out an individual health care payment plan without insurance at all. In our current system nobody is forced to do whatever BCBS tells us to do. You aren’t FORCED to use BCBS! You aren’t forced to have insurance at all! That’s what I call freedom: the ability to make your own choices, and to not force others to provide choices for you, I don’t care if it’s big business, government or your neighbor.

    Rob says: “Are Medicare participants less free because of their particpation in that successful and popular program? ”
    – No, Medicare participants are not less free, however the tax payers that FUND medicare ARE. Money is being extorted from them by force to fund this program.

    Rob says: “are you suggesting that you’d be open to any suggestion Obama made? Because you wouldn’t be.”
    – Of course I’m Open to any suggestions. I would absolutely love to see Obama’s health care plan work, I would absolutely love to see his plan in action, but I want it done in a way that it can be 100% self sustaining, and it wouldn’t take a single penny away from the tax payers in this country.
    – Also, tyranny can come in the form of big business, however as a consumer, I am not forced to partake in a businesses services if I do not wish to. However when it comes to Government, I am forced to partake in funding that service. If a business wants to price gouge, and make 300% profit, that’s fine with me, I don’t have to buy their product. But if the government wants to provide a service, I MUST fund it, or go to jail at the point of a gun.

    Rob Says: “Did you feel the same way when W was in power and performing illegal wiretaps and launching illegal wars? I have a feeling you didn’t, but if you did, maybe we could agree on a few things, afterall.”
    – Why of course I did! Again, we go back to the premise of government extorting money from those who earn it! Personally I’m in favor or funding a war against those who have declared it on us and who have demonstrated their efforts clearly, however the funding of that war should not come from those who do not wish to support it.

    – Rob Says: “Also, do any employers provide spouses for people? Or even food? No, they don’t. Your string of hypotheticals was completely void of logic and they suggest that you don’t know how you really feel about anything going on in this debate.”
    – My string of hypotheticals clearly indicates the absurdity employer funding health care. Why should anybody choose for you the things that value the most to you? Why should anybody choose for you what health care you should have? It is I who finds the lack of logic in these actions.
    Oh, and also, I would like to know your logic in deducting my ignorance about whats going on in this debate though.

    Rob: Under Obama’s plan, can I choose to have no insurance at all if I don’t want to have any?

    Thanks!

  11. hsr0601
    August 13, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    Misinformation & Correction :

    1. Rationing & A long Line :

    With the help of upcoming IT system, the concern of a long waiting list probably doesn’t matter. And now that docs are liable for patient’s outcome, no intervention in the final decision is allowed other than ‘recommendations’ for best practices.

    In the government-run, single-payer Medicare program, enrollees choose their own doctors, receive care in a timely manner. Similarly, the public option can be viewed as extension of medicare, exactly speaking, an upgraded version of it.

    2. Saving & low Quality :

    Most part of savings is made up of weeding out such wastes as so called “doughnut hole” , the unnecessary subsidies for insurers, the duplicate tests and unproven sham level of treatments, abuse, exorbitant costs by the tragic ER visits and so forth. As president Obama noted, the analogy of insulation, weatherization would be appropriate.

    With that in mind nearly two-thirds of the cost of reform will come from reallocating money, overall, the financial architecture is looking good.

    And let me stress : If you are a physician, and your pay is dependant upon your patient’s outcome, you will most likely strive to prescribe the best medicine available earlier in the process, let alone skimming the wasteful, unnecessary, and risk-carrying procedures.

    3. Take-over ;

    The runaway premium similar to the peak fuel price last year and left so many folks in despair insists on staying the course with the attitude ‘unchanged’, clearly this trend could bankrupt individual, business, and government. Now the government subsequently is tasked with these two main assignments, first, to address premium inflation, second, to expand coverage to all in urgent need.

    In order to cover all and not to add to the deficit, the public option can not set the same rates of private market, rather, it needs to have BALANCING function to keep it in check in terms of INFLATION, too. Unfortunately, this ‘unavoidable’ direction is aggressively being accused by the runaway premium, citing government ‘take-over’ .

    Under the circumstances the energy bill to determine human future and the other major issues are presently piled up, who wants to waste time making enemies ?, which also does not benefit the forthcoming election.

    with the heartbreaking tears in mind (Nearly 11 Million Cancer Patients Without Health Insurance), private market also needs changes and should join together to complete this reform , as promised, otherwise, the runaway premium only has itself to blame while new firms are filling the void with competitive deals.
    And It can be said that fair competition starts with a fair, sustainable market value.

    However, Job-based coverage (indirect payment) and a limitation code over transfer, mandate code, and ample capital, reduced ER costs, IT base to streamline the administrative processes and trim costs might be favorable to the private market. Over time, supposedly, the public plan will concentrate more on basic, primary cares, and the private insurers will provide their clients with differentiated services.

    4. Tax rise :

    In the context the current health care wastes an estimated one-third – or about $700 billion – on unnecessary procedures, unnecessary visits to the doctor, overpriced pharmaceuticals, bloated insurance companies, and the most inefficient paper billing systems imaginable, health care reformers have often cited the system at Mayo Clinic as a model.

    In modernized society, the business lacking IT system is unthinkable just like pre-electricity period, nevertheless, the last thing to expect is happening now in the sector requiring the most accuracy in respect to dealing with human lives. Apparently the errors by no e-medical records have spawned the crushing lawsuits, and these costs have led to the unnecessary tests, treatments, even further, more profits so far.

    Thankfully, the pay for ‘outcome’ pack modeled after the system at Mayo Clinic is most likely to expedite the introduction of IT system, and the combined system is capable of shifting volume into quality in Medicare & Medicaid, thereby offsetting the 239 billions of estimated deficit, which is generated by $245 billions, the 10-year cost of adjusting Medicare reimbursement rates so physicians don’t face big annual pay cuts.

    Supporters of the agreement say it could save the Medicare System more than $100 billion a year and ‘improve’ care, supposedly even a quarter of it might be enough to meet the goal of revenue-neutral. Moreover, in case this innovative idea applies to the public option, presumably it can lower the overall expense sharply, too.

    And in respect to preventative program, surprisingly enough, the system today is designed around treating patients once they become sick, following ‘spillover’ and ‘levee breach’ , as too high level of preventable chronic disease accounts for it. By contrast, all of the excellent health systems seem to have one feature in common, an expansive, systematic preventative program demanding immense investments.

    Some say the effect of preventative program is below zero compared with investments, or takes a long time even beyond next decade window, but if this program in the exemplary systems is disorganized, the odds are high that they will also face the same pressing need for reform in a few years. Like common sense, fire needs to prevent in advance or foil in early phase, and it would be the most cost-saving measure, in my mind.

    Just like marriage, economy also undergoes up and down, however, economic downturn is not reflected in the employment-based system. The rising mental stress & ‘keep eating habit’ , which are the epicenter of a number of different diseases, might be traced to this insecure system and exorbitant premiums.
    Once the health care reform provides the general public with peace of mind, the rising mental stress, obesity caused by the the deep-seated apprehension and exorbitant premiums may bend the curve surprisingly.
    And reducing the tragic ER visits can lessen costs for the already insured, what’s more, the balancing function of public option could mitigate fast-rising premiums.

    I guess If the cost of the reform is an issue Americans take seriously, then all of the ‘free’ nations in the world should withdraw the existing public policy. Instead, it might be the ‘will’ of reform to end disgrace. Here is the hope, while the runaway premium wound up in the collapse of middle class ranging ‘ from finance to mental health’ , alongside the peak fuel price and fast-growing mortgage rate, this time, clearly, the positive impacts involving massive job creation, promising stem cell research, several times more economic effects of ‘from bed to work’ , in return, will lead to economic recovery.

    Thank You For Reading !

  12. Single Payer Action
    August 13, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    the White House’s Deal With Big Pharma Undermines Democracy