Comments on: 3 NC Dems vote against health reform – top in the country http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/11/08/3-nc-dems-vote-against-health-reform-top-in-the-country/ The Progressive Pulse is a blog about the issues, debates, and people that affect North Carolina public policy. As with the organization that sponsors it, NC Policy Watch, its ultimate objective is to improve the quality of life in the state, in this case by promoting the development of an informed, energetic and progressive online community. The Progressive Pulse welcomes the contributions of interested people of all points of view provided they are of a reasonable length, have some relevance to issues of North Carolina public policy and abide by the common rules of online etiquette (i.e., please avoid inappropriate language and show a measure of respect for others --even the John Locke Foundation). To post a comment, simply click the comment line then provide your name and email. Your email address will not be collected or shared. If you would like to be contributing writer, please send your post to info@ncpolicywatch.com with 'blog' in the subject line. If the post meets with our criteria (has a progressive perspective and is relative to our state), we will publish it. Sun, 14 Mar 2010 06:54:43 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: The Progressive Pulse – 3 Nc Dems Vote Against Health Reform – Top … « lafayettelouisianadebtconsolidation http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/11/08/3-nc-dems-vote-against-health-reform-top-in-the-country/comment-page-1/#comment-50260 The Progressive Pulse – 3 Nc Dems Vote Against Health Reform – Top … « lafayettelouisianadebtconsolidation Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:24:39 +0000 http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/?p=9672#comment-50260 [...] Larry Kissell, Heath Shuler , and Mike McIntyre represent some of the poorest parts of our state and have some of the highest percentages of people who can’t afford coverage in their districts. In fact all three have over 20% of people …This Post [...] [...] Larry Kissell, Heath Shuler , and Mike McIntyre represent some of the poorest parts of our state and have some of the highest percentages of people who can’t afford coverage in their districts. In fact all three have over 20% of people …This Post [...]

]]> By: Sarah http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/11/08/3-nc-dems-vote-against-health-reform-top-in-the-country/comment-page-1/#comment-49135 Sarah Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:07:23 +0000 http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/?p=9672#comment-49135 There are no criminal penalties in any of the proposed bills for not having insurance. That's just not true. There are no criminal penalties in any of the proposed bills for not having insurance. That’s just not true.

]]> By: IBXer http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/11/08/3-nc-dems-vote-against-health-reform-top-in-the-country/comment-page-1/#comment-49112 IBXer Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:12:42 +0000 http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/?p=9672#comment-49112 Jack, private business cannot have punative policies because they have no way to enforce them. Government, on the other hand... $250,000 and/or 5 years in prison for not having insurance. Now that is punative Jack, private business cannot have punative policies because they have no way to enforce them.

Government, on the other hand…

$250,000 and/or 5 years in prison for not having insurance.

Now that is punative

]]> By: Jack http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/11/08/3-nc-dems-vote-against-health-reform-top-in-the-country/comment-page-1/#comment-48943 Jack Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:50:01 +0000 http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/?p=9672#comment-48943 Tummy tucks, right. Now for something from the real world. Just received an annual increase in personal healthcare premium, courtesy of a really big insurance company. Last year the increase was just under $100, his year it’s over $100. It’s hard not to think, at some level, that the premium increase isn’t punitive in nature. But, as it’s been said, many times many ways, “It’s not personal, it’s business.” Tummy tucks, right. Now for something from the real world.

Just received an annual increase in personal healthcare premium, courtesy of a really big insurance company. Last year the increase was just under $100, his year it’s over $100.

It’s hard not to think, at some level, that the premium increase isn’t punitive in nature. But, as it’s been said, many times many ways, “It’s not personal, it’s business.”

]]> By: IBXer http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/11/08/3-nc-dems-vote-against-health-reform-top-in-the-country/comment-page-1/#comment-48930 IBXer Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:17:52 +0000 http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/?p=9672#comment-48930 NC cannot afford the obamanation that passed the House this weekend. We won't be able to educate our children or hire police because we will be too busy working to pay for everyone's tummy tucks. NC cannot afford the obamanation that passed the House this weekend. We won’t be able to educate our children or hire police because we will be too busy working to pay for everyone’s tummy tucks.

]]> By: Louie http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/11/08/3-nc-dems-vote-against-health-reform-top-in-the-country/comment-page-1/#comment-48870 Louie Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:42:07 +0000 http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/?p=9672#comment-48870 FROM THE CALIFORNIA NURSES ASSOCIATION: This Bill Fails to Control Costs While the current bills will provide limited assistance for some, the inconvenient truth is they fall far short in effective controls on skyrocketing insurance, pharmaceutical and hospital costs, do little to stop insurance companies from denying needed medical care recommended by doctors, and provide little relief for Americans with employer-sponsored insurance worried about health security for themselves and their families. FROM THE CALIFORNIA NURSES ASSOCIATION: This Bill Fails to Control Costs

While the current bills will provide limited assistance for some, the inconvenient truth is they fall far short in effective controls on skyrocketing insurance, pharmaceutical and hospital costs, do little to stop insurance companies from denying needed medical care recommended by doctors, and provide little relief for Americans with employer-sponsored insurance worried about health security for themselves and their families.

]]> By: Real Dem http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/11/08/3-nc-dems-vote-against-health-reform-top-in-the-country/comment-page-1/#comment-48869 Real Dem Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:01:10 +0000 http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/?p=9672#comment-48869 "We may be in the poorer section of NC but we’re proud folk, and don’t take a handout from NOBODY, especially the government. We take care of our own, and our neighbors. We pay our own bills. And we teach our kids the same. Thank you, Heath." Laurie, do you know anyone on Medicare or Medicaid, receiving unemployment benefits? I'll bet you do. Are those handouts? You can make an argument about this particular bill, but calling it a "handout" isn't one - it simply reveals your profound ignorance of the health care debate. “We may be in the poorer section of NC but we’re proud folk, and don’t take a handout from NOBODY, especially the government. We take care of our own, and our neighbors. We pay our own bills. And we teach our kids the same. Thank you, Heath.”

Laurie, do you know anyone on Medicare or Medicaid, receiving unemployment benefits? I’ll bet you do. Are those handouts?

You can make an argument about this particular bill, but calling it a “handout” isn’t one – it simply reveals your profound ignorance of the health care debate.

]]> By: Real Progressive Media http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/11/08/3-nc-dems-vote-against-health-reform-top-in-the-country/comment-page-1/#comment-48866 Real Progressive Media Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:54:27 +0000 http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/?p=9672#comment-48866 Democracy Now can be heard in NC at Asheville URTV Ch. 20 8am & 12pm, M-F Asheville WFRA 107.5 FM 6pm M Asheville WPVM-LP 103.5 FM 8am, 12pm, 6pm & 2am M-F Asheville Progressive Voice of the Mountains 103.5 Titulares De Hoy a las 7pm L-V Carrboro WCOM 103.5 FM 8am M-F Chapel Hill The Peoples Channel, Ch. 8 7pm M-F Durham WNCU 90.7 FM 6:30pm M-F Greensboro WQFS 90.9 FM 5pm M-F Winston-Salem WSNC 90.5 FM 6pm, M-F Democracy Now can be heard in NC at

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]]> By: Radio4All http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/11/08/3-nc-dems-vote-against-health-reform-top-in-the-country/comment-page-1/#comment-48865 Radio4All Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:52:06 +0000 http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/?p=9672#comment-48865 Interesting discussion on progressive TV/Radio: "House Passes Landmark Healthcare Bill with Amendment Backed by Anti-Abortion Lawmakers" about the so-called 'health reform' bill on today's Democracy Now! with Rep. Dennis Kucinich, Democratic Congress member from Ohio and Jane Hamsher, founder of the Firedoglake. you can hear it on WNCU radio in Durham this evening.... Interesting discussion on progressive TV/Radio:

“House Passes Landmark Healthcare Bill with Amendment Backed by Anti-Abortion Lawmakers”

about the so-called ‘health reform’ bill on today’s Democracy Now! with Rep. Dennis Kucinich, Democratic Congress member from Ohio and Jane Hamsher, founder of the Firedoglake.

you can hear it on WNCU radio in Durham this evening….

]]> By: AdamL http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2009/11/08/3-nc-dems-vote-against-health-reform-top-in-the-country/comment-page-1/#comment-48851 AdamL Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:43:27 +0000 http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/?p=9672#comment-48851 Single Payer Action, NC's budget for Medicaid would increase less than 1 percent after reform -- the feds pick up the cost for 95 percent of newly eligibles, which is a major cost of the reform package. Wes, President Obama campaigned on preserving the employer based health insurance system. McCain was defeated by campaigning against the employer based health insurance system. Most people get their insurance through work and want to keep that insurance. Unions, businesses, and most people with insurance oppose changing the employer based health insurance system. While it may be (arguably) good policy to alter the employer based system it is not politically viable. Single Payer Action, NC’s budget for Medicaid would increase less than 1 percent after reform — the feds pick up the cost for 95 percent of newly eligibles, which is a major cost of the reform package.

Wes, President Obama campaigned on preserving the employer based health insurance system. McCain was defeated by campaigning against the employer based health insurance system. Most people get their insurance through work and want to keep that insurance. Unions, businesses, and most people with insurance oppose changing the employer based health insurance system.

While it may be (arguably) good policy to alter the employer based system it is not politically viable.

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