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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2010/03/04/margiotta-calls-parents-animals/#comment-65626</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A comment on a previous article in a public forum ---- Double standard? 

Jack 
4 Mar 2010
 
9:53 am
 Whether soda, saltine, club and topped with cheese whiz, colby jack or gouda a cracker is a cracker is a cracker.

Look guys, when you live with mob rules you have to live with the mob. Democracy is plane and simple, &quot;The Mob Rules&quot;. When you realize that protecting the individual serves everyone equally the we&#039;ll have the school systems that we want in NC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A comment on a previous article in a public forum &#8212;- Double standard? </p>
<p>Jack<br />
4 Mar 2010</p>
<p>9:53 am<br />
 Whether soda, saltine, club and topped with cheese whiz, colby jack or gouda a cracker is a cracker is a cracker.</p>
<p>Look guys, when you live with mob rules you have to live with the mob. Democracy is plane and simple, &#8220;The Mob Rules&#8221;. When you realize that protecting the individual serves everyone equally the we&#8217;ll have the school systems that we want in NC.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Henry</title>
		<link>http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2010/03/04/margiotta-calls-parents-animals/#comment-65540</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 04:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is the heavy-handed approach.  The &quot;new board,&quot; as it is being called, has a clear majority and a clear minority.   I don&#039;t see any evidence of cooperation on either part -- perhaps because the &quot;carrots&quot; being offered by the majority are not compromises, but merely opportunities to be part of the process of overhauling the school system to suit the board majority&#039;s agenda.  (except of course, for Kevin Hill, who&#039;s been just about shut out of the whole committee process)  Why should Keith Sutton want to be part of developing a plan for neighborhood schools? His district will be a zone of high poverty schools.  Why should Anne McLaurin vote to support a plan that will drive down housing prices in Raleigh and drive homeowners and the businesses they support outside the beltline?  Why should longtime educators Kevin Hill and Carolyn Morrison support a plan to undo the very school system they have spent their careers helping to build?  The new Wake order is not going to affect the folks in the suburbs adversely.  We may even get some magnet schools closer to home.  But those inner city kids who will &quot;get&quot; to go to school closer to home will lose out -- when the parents who volunteer in their schools and support their PTAs with their dollars pull out their money and their time to go to neighborhood schools where they live.  And I&#039;m tired of hearing that it&#039;s time for the parents of those F&amp;R kids to &quot;step up and be better parents.&quot;  Don&#039;t judge someone if you&#039;ve never walked in their shoes.  There&#039;s a whole lot more to the story than income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is the heavy-handed approach.  The &#8220;new board,&#8221; as it is being called, has a clear majority and a clear minority.   I don&#8217;t see any evidence of cooperation on either part &#8212; perhaps because the &#8220;carrots&#8221; being offered by the majority are not compromises, but merely opportunities to be part of the process of overhauling the school system to suit the board majority&#8217;s agenda.  (except of course, for Kevin Hill, who&#8217;s been just about shut out of the whole committee process)  Why should Keith Sutton want to be part of developing a plan for neighborhood schools? His district will be a zone of high poverty schools.  Why should Anne McLaurin vote to support a plan that will drive down housing prices in Raleigh and drive homeowners and the businesses they support outside the beltline?  Why should longtime educators Kevin Hill and Carolyn Morrison support a plan to undo the very school system they have spent their careers helping to build?  The new Wake order is not going to affect the folks in the suburbs adversely.  We may even get some magnet schools closer to home.  But those inner city kids who will &#8220;get&#8221; to go to school closer to home will lose out &#8212; when the parents who volunteer in their schools and support their PTAs with their dollars pull out their money and their time to go to neighborhood schools where they live.  And I&#8217;m tired of hearing that it&#8217;s time for the parents of those F&amp;R kids to &#8220;step up and be better parents.&#8221;  Don&#8217;t judge someone if you&#8217;ve never walked in their shoes.  There&#8217;s a whole lot more to the story than income.</p>
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		<title>By: NAACP FILES COMPLAINT WITH SOUTHERN ASSOCIATION OF COLLEGES AND SCHOOLS and CALLS FOR THE STEPPING DOWN OF WAKE CHAIRMAN MARGIOTTA at MORNING PRESS CONFERENCE &#171; The Political Agitator</title>
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		<dc:creator>NAACP FILES COMPLAINT WITH SOUTHERN ASSOCIATION OF COLLEGES AND SCHOOLS and CALLS FOR THE STEPPING DOWN OF WAKE CHAIRMAN MARGIOTTA at MORNING PRESS CONFERENCE &#171; The Political Agitator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on the link: http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org:80/2010/03/04/margiotta-calls-parents-animals/.&#160; See the full complaint [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on the link: <a href="http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org:80/2010/03/04/margiotta-calls-parents-animals/.&#038;#160" rel="nofollow">http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org:80/2010/03/04/margiotta-calls-parents-animals/.&#038;#160</a>; See the full complaint [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tothepoint</title>
		<link>http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2010/03/04/margiotta-calls-parents-animals/#comment-64903</link>
		<dc:creator>Tothepoint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last I recalled, Mr. Margiotta and others were elected by a majority of the residents in the district. Not everyone agrees on a policy and those whose side did not prevail in the election should not fall back on old ghost who have no basis in today&#039;s time.

That fact of this situation is that busing children all over the map is not the cure for social equality, a quality education, and an opportunity for economic success.

The fundemental fact is that the success of the school, the success of providing children with a quality education, the success of providing them with a platform for a solid future, begins with the child&#039;s parent or parents. Without that, no amount of school resources is going to make a material impact across the broader landscape of our society.

The fact is that many of our children are coming from home situations that no matter how much effort a school system puts in, too many are failing because of a lack of a stable, supportive home environment.

Until we begin to recognize that there are fundemental problems with the family structure in many of these communities, we will continue to see the same problems.

Until we bring into this discussion that fact that far too many of our children are losing an opportunity to participate in economic prosperity because of the explosion in single parent households, we will never meet a goal of creating an all inclusive society.

We can not expect our schools and our teachers to be replacements for stable homes and invested parents.

Government resources can not supplement personal responsibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last I recalled, Mr. Margiotta and others were elected by a majority of the residents in the district. Not everyone agrees on a policy and those whose side did not prevail in the election should not fall back on old ghost who have no basis in today&#8217;s time.</p>
<p>That fact of this situation is that busing children all over the map is not the cure for social equality, a quality education, and an opportunity for economic success.</p>
<p>The fundemental fact is that the success of the school, the success of providing children with a quality education, the success of providing them with a platform for a solid future, begins with the child&#8217;s parent or parents. Without that, no amount of school resources is going to make a material impact across the broader landscape of our society.</p>
<p>The fact is that many of our children are coming from home situations that no matter how much effort a school system puts in, too many are failing because of a lack of a stable, supportive home environment.</p>
<p>Until we begin to recognize that there are fundemental problems with the family structure in many of these communities, we will continue to see the same problems.</p>
<p>Until we bring into this discussion that fact that far too many of our children are losing an opportunity to participate in economic prosperity because of the explosion in single parent households, we will never meet a goal of creating an all inclusive society.</p>
<p>We can not expect our schools and our teachers to be replacements for stable homes and invested parents.</p>
<p>Government resources can not supplement personal responsibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Ciulla</title>
		<link>http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2010/03/04/margiotta-calls-parents-animals/#comment-64897</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Ciulla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Julie :)

I post my real name.  I support the new board&#039;s agenda, but that doesn&#039;t mean I agree with how Margiotta is acting.  It is the chair&#039;s job to conduct these meetings in a business-like manner.  School board meetings are non pep rallies, they are a time to conduct the people&#039;s business.  His first mistake was to allow applause.  I live in Cary and have attended many meetings filled with angry people.  But the mayor makes it clear up front that we are conducting business and that there is no room for crowd participation unless they are at the podium.  He lets people know that the room will be cleared if necessary.  Once you allow applause, you then have to allow boos.  The boos quickly deteriorate into hurled insults.  It is a slippery slope which must be avoided.  

I do not at all think that Margiotta&#039;s comment was racist, but it seems that some opportunists who oppose the new board direction are thrilled to play it that way.  That said, the chair is expected to set the tone for these meetings, and comments like this one are completely inappropriate.

It breaks my heart that we have young children in these meetings hearing adults call adults &quot;animals,&quot; &quot;white racists&quot; or &quot;mafia members.&quot;  This is no example of the proper way to run a democracy.

I also think the heavy-handed tactics in general have been uncalled for.  Margiotta has been at the receiving end of this for several years, but that doesn&#039;t make it right.  Prior to the last election I was a long time school board dissenter.  I worked very hard with a lot of people to drive change in our board leadership.  That change was accomplished, a new majority exists, and there is no need for some of the tactics I&#039;m seeing.  As a longtime dissenter, I&#039;m reminded of how many times I was told &quot;Just because the board doesn&#039;t do what you want, it doesn&#039;t mean they didn&#039;t listen to you.&quot;  It still applies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Julie :)</p>
<p>I post my real name.  I support the new board&#8217;s agenda, but that doesn&#8217;t mean I agree with how Margiotta is acting.  It is the chair&#8217;s job to conduct these meetings in a business-like manner.  School board meetings are non pep rallies, they are a time to conduct the people&#8217;s business.  His first mistake was to allow applause.  I live in Cary and have attended many meetings filled with angry people.  But the mayor makes it clear up front that we are conducting business and that there is no room for crowd participation unless they are at the podium.  He lets people know that the room will be cleared if necessary.  Once you allow applause, you then have to allow boos.  The boos quickly deteriorate into hurled insults.  It is a slippery slope which must be avoided.  </p>
<p>I do not at all think that Margiotta&#8217;s comment was racist, but it seems that some opportunists who oppose the new board direction are thrilled to play it that way.  That said, the chair is expected to set the tone for these meetings, and comments like this one are completely inappropriate.</p>
<p>It breaks my heart that we have young children in these meetings hearing adults call adults &#8220;animals,&#8221; &#8220;white racists&#8221; or &#8220;mafia members.&#8221;  This is no example of the proper way to run a democracy.</p>
<p>I also think the heavy-handed tactics in general have been uncalled for.  Margiotta has been at the receiving end of this for several years, but that doesn&#8217;t make it right.  Prior to the last election I was a long time school board dissenter.  I worked very hard with a lot of people to drive change in our board leadership.  That change was accomplished, a new majority exists, and there is no need for some of the tactics I&#8217;m seeing.  As a longtime dissenter, I&#8217;m reminded of how many times I was told &#8220;Just because the board doesn&#8217;t do what you want, it doesn&#8217;t mean they didn&#8217;t listen to you.&#8221;  It still applies.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2010/03/04/margiotta-calls-parents-animals/#comment-64712</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Margiotta and the board have made it clear--what the people think and say is of no consequence. Mr. Margiotta has set the standard for how this is going to play out.

There was a day when segregation was considered a key component of racism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Margiotta and the board have made it clear&#8211;what the people think and say is of no consequence. Mr. Margiotta has set the standard for how this is going to play out.</p>
<p>There was a day when segregation was considered a key component of racism.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Henry</title>
		<link>http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2010/03/04/margiotta-calls-parents-animals/#comment-64684</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever notice that the folks who support Margiotta and the new board majority never post their real names on blogs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever notice that the folks who support Margiotta and the new board majority never post their real names on blogs?</p>
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		<title>By: just a mom</title>
		<link>http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2010/03/04/margiotta-calls-parents-animals/#comment-64678</link>
		<dc:creator>just a mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Mr. Margiotta gets called a white racist, is told he&#039;s going to hell, and you leave that part out?  Biased much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Mr. Margiotta gets called a white racist, is told he&#8217;s going to hell, and you leave that part out?  Biased much?</p>
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		<title>By: getreal</title>
		<link>http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2010/03/04/margiotta-calls-parents-animals/#comment-64670</link>
		<dc:creator>getreal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr or Mrs IBMer

You still got a job???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr or Mrs IBMer</p>
<p>You still got a job???</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Fitzsimon</title>
		<link>http://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2010/03/04/margiotta-calls-parents-animals/#comment-64669</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Fitzsimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The voters sent Margiotta to call people animals coming out of their cages?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The voters sent Margiotta to call people animals coming out of their cages?</p>
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