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Tea Partier Glen Bradley talks up state currency, while a “Liberty Dollar” minter gets nabbed in WNC

It might be advisable for Glen Bradley to look to the western part of the state to see how the federal authorities feel about people going off and making their own money.

They’re really not keen on it, to put it mildly.

It’s nothing short of a federal crime for anyone but Congress to authorize the minting of money as an Indiana man found out last week when a federal jury in Statesville, N.C. convicted him of making “Liberty Dollars” that were used as tender in and around the Asheville area.

Bradley, for those who need a refresher, is a Franklin County GOP state representative that wants North Carolina to eschew the Federal Reserve and begin making its own money. His bill would create a committee to the study this issue, but has attracted no co-sponsors and seems destined for to die in committee. Bradley’s getting a steady stream of attention for it, and is supposed to appear at 4 p.m. today on Fox News’ Neil Cavuto show to talk about it.

But back to the criminal case in Western North Carolina.

Bernard von NotHaus, 67, was convicted Friday at in a federal courtroom in Statesville of making, possessing, and selling $7 million worth of his own coins, according to a news release from the FBI in Charlotte. He could be imprisoned up to 25 years and federal prosecutors are now seeking the forfeiture of 16,000 pounds of Liberty Dollar coins and precious metals that were used by the group (worth an estimated $7 million).

NotHaus was the founder of a group called the National Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve and Internal Revenue Code (NORFED) that was trying to undermine the federal monetary system by minting “Liberty Dollars,” some of which were emblazoned with the Ron Paul’s profile.

The Asheville Citizen Times reports that an Asheville man, William Kevin Innes, was the North Carolina regional currency office of NotHaus’ group and is accused of convincing 70 businesses in the Asheville area to accept the Liberty Dollar. Federal criminal charges against Innes are still pending.

In a side note, NotHaus has apparently moved onto other activist pastures and is now a “high priest” of the Free Marijuana Church of Honolulu, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center which tracks extremist and hate groups in the country. At the Marijuana Church, members  step into a “High Room” for one toke of marijuana, and then retire to a meditation room “in serene bliss.” NotHaus, according to SPLC, was working on a book in 2009 about people’s positive drug use stories. The working title: “One Toke to God — Two Tokes to Party.”

You just can’t make this stuff up.

13 Comments

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  2. Brian G.

    March 22, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    States are wise to move back to the Constitutional requirement for money, “Nothing but gold and silver shall be legal tender”. The Utah House of Representatives has passed sound money legislation, and other states are considering it too. But the ignorance of the public about how the Federal Reserve works is a force to overcome. Thats how the bankers like it. Too complex to understand, and too big to fail. Gold and silver money is the only way for free people to keep control of their government and the corporations who grow up around it with unrestrained credit. Progressives, wake up! That little thug who runs the Southern Poverty Law Center should not be taken seriously. And the fact is wrong. He was a member of the Free Marijuana church long ago. The pot smoker with his silver medallions threatens the Money Masters! Interesting isn’t it?

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  5. Don

    March 22, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    First off, the Liberty Dollar and the U.S. Silver Dollar are two entirely different things. Look at the reverse: what other U.S. coin carries an image of the torch? Answer: None. That is the most common reverse on the “Liberty” Dollar. Secondly, look at the denomination of the two different monetary pieces. The “Liberty Dollar” carries the denomination of $10 or $20, while the U.S. Silver Dollar carries the denomination of “one dollar.” Third, and perhaps the most important major difference (there are many, many, many small differences) is that the Liberty Dollar is minted from .999 pure silver, and is literally worth its weight in spot price of silver. The U.S. Silver Dollar is minted as a silver alloy with 90% Silver alloyed with other base metals, and is worth only a fraction (90%) of what the Liberty Dollar is worth–actual market value. These monetary pieces are NOT counterfeit, b/c they do not even resemble the U.S. Silver Dollar. They more closely relate to the newer version of the U.S. eagle, which is .999 bullion (silver), but carries the denomination of $1.00. I have seen many counterfeit coins, and you have to literally put them under a magnifying lense in most cases to tell the difference. The difference between the Liberty Dollar and the U.S. Silver dollar is apparent to even a novice from across the room. So, congress needs to act proactively in getting its head around the U.S. Constitution and it’s stipulation for monetary issuance, rather than waiting for the public to begin their own minting of actual realy money in gold or silver. They need to outlaw fiat currency–as the founding fathers intended–b/c it isn’t worth the paper it’s not printed on, as Gerald Celente points out. Would anyone be interested in some wooden nickles that “aren’t worth a a continental?” Let’s get real here, and quit worrying about getting the cart before the horse, and get some monetary reform through congress so that our money is actually worth something, so that we don’t have to make a bunch of new rules to force people to continue transacting their business with play dough.

  6. anon

    March 22, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    Notice von NotHaus was not convicted for making “his own money” but rather he was making fake United States money.

    As long as you don’t make fake U.S. money, and don’t try to pass off what you make as if it were U.S. money, it has never been a problem.

    Many communities, companies and individuals have been doing that for decades without a problem.

  7. Mark

    March 22, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    The silver the government siezed was actually owned by private citizens and were backed by warehouse receipts issued by NORFED, so the silver the government wants to keep is not owned by the Liberty Dollar people and should be returned to the people who are holding these receipts i.e. the customers of Liberty Dollar

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  9. Karl

    March 23, 2011 at 9:08 am

    Don when you said, “Look at the reverse: what other U.S. coin carries an image of the torch? Answer: None.” You forgot the FDR dime.

    But I do agree with you, that the differences are so great that the “Liberty Dollar” could never be confused with a ANY US minted silver dollar, past or present.

  10. Herb Revenuer 2011

    March 23, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    is marijuana NC’s #number one cash crop or not?

  11. Herb Revenuer 2011

    March 23, 2011 at 12:40 pm

  12. anonymous

    March 29, 2011 at 9:59 am

    There is nothing criminal about what Bernard did. Bernard sought the opinion of the FBI, U.S. Treasury, Secret Service, and someone from the Federal Reserve. They all previously agreed that the Liberty Dollar was not illegal, as long as a person does not proclaim it to be “legal tender”. For the U.S. Mint and the DOJ to come out later, in a complete reversal proves they are unethical corrupt LIARS, and are simply trying to shut down any functional method of bartering.

    Bernard did his due diligence in getting his product vetted by the both the authorities, and from opinions of his attorneys that had no interest in the Liberty Dollar or alternative bartering systems. This case will be appealed to the Supreme Court if necessary.

  13. anonymous

    March 29, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    The government has previously OK’d the Liberty Dollar. What changed?

    http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20090627011653/http://www.libertydollar.org/news-stories/pdfs/y2klooming.pdf

    Claudia Dickens, spokesman for the U.S. Treasury Department’s Bureau of Engraving and Printing, said American Liberty Currency is LEGITIMATE.

    “There’s nothing illegal about this, ” Dickens said after the Treasury Department’s legal team reviewed the currency. “As long as it doesn’t say legal tender there’s nothing wrong with it.”

    http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20090627011653/http://www.libertydollar.org/news-stories/pdfs/libertybucks.pdf

    “It’s not counterfeit money,” concurs Ron Legan, Special Agent in Charge (SAC) of the Seattle Wash, Secret Service field office. Having investigated this regulatory matter closely, he concludes that the silver sertificates are well within the highly restrictive boundaries of American monetary guidelines. “We determined there wasn’t a federal currency violation, ” he explains. Although Legan concedes to being “skeptical” of NORFED, he admits there have been no “defrauds” or “Complaints” filed against the political organization. Despite giving the newly coined cash a clean bill of health at the
    Treasury level, Legan believes ALC may possibly fall within the purview of another federal regulatory agency, such as the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).

    http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20090627011653/http://www.libertydollar.org/news-stories/pdfs/sobeit.pdf

    Art Rolnick, the director of research for the Federal Reserve
    Bank of Minneapolis said:

    “If these (NORFED) people want to issue their own money, so be it. It will be interesting to see what
    the public thinks,” Rolnick said.