A “learning experience,” indeed

If you had any doubts about the way House Speaker Thom “Divide and Conquer” Tillis and his cronies think our government should be run, check out the following excerpts  from Laura Leslie’s story at WRAL.com on the GOP’s early morning kangaroo legislative session (which also includes the video of Tillis’ cocksure pronouncements).

This is from Tillis:

“Some people that probably don’t like the fact we’re here tonight. But the fact of the matter is we got it done, we’re out of here, we’re saving money and going back home….Everybody knows that anytime we come into a general session, that those matters are on the calendar, and this should be a learning experience.”

And this is an exchange between one of Tillis’ top deputies, Rep. Tim Moore, and Rep. Paul Luebke:

“These bills were debated extensively during session. They’ve had full vetting,” responded House Rules chairman Tim Moore, R-Cleveland. “Whenever the will of the majority is to pass legislation without further delay, we should move forward.”

“Do you think 1:05 AM is a good time for the public to participate in this debate?” asked Paul Luebke, D-Durham.

“No time is better than the present,” Moore replied.

In other words, “We’re gonna’ do this because we can. Anyone who doesn’t like it can lump it.”

Disingenuous as these statements were, let’s hope that at least one thing Tillis said was true — namely, that this morning’s events prove to be a “learning experience.” Indeed, let’s hope that millions of caring and thinking North Carolinains learned (or, at least will learn) once and for all that the people running the state General Assembly will stop at nothing in their efforts to  impose their extreme, far right agenda.   




  1. Joe Coletti

    January 5, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    How is the NCGA’s action different from President Obama’s: “We Can’t Wait: The White House Announces…”?

  2. Rob Schofield

    January 5, 2012 at 2:23 pm

    I love it when the only thing right-wingers can say about the reprehensible behavior of their political buddies is to try and change the subject and say something like: “Well, um, some guys we don’t like did something similar one time!”

    Actually, Joe it appears you missed the memo; even your former colleagues in Locke-land are criticizing this morning’s Secret Session. Come on, it won’t hurt to just admit that Tillis and the boys screwed up again. You can still hate the NCAE and all things public while admitting that policies to vindictively screw them over ought not to be hatched and executed at one in the morning.

  3. Joe Coletti

    January 5, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    So you agree that President Obama is behaving reprehensibly?

  4. Rob Schofield

    January 5, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    See my previous comment. By the way. I thought you had some new gig out of state. What are you doing back slumming in NC politics?

  5. James

    January 5, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    I guess Lyin’ Thom will learn his own lesson when his bullshit scheme gets overturned in court. Too bad he won’t have to pay for that lesson though. Unfortunately, NC taxpayers will.

  6. gregflynn

    January 5, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    Hey Joe … oh … sorry, I mistook you for different Joe Coletti who is actually concerned about transparency

  7. Joe Coletti

    January 5, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    I still live in NC and follow your RSS. You and Greg both mistake my question for a defense of the action. I don’t like middle-of-the-night votes on budgets (long-standing tradition in North Carolina), health care laws (might as well bring Adam and Adam into the discussion), or veto override.

    So again, how is what the NCGA did different from Obama’s actions? Is President Obama acting reprehensibly in his numerous bypassings of Congress since December? Is it reprehensible for Democrats in Indiana to boycott a session so no work can get done there?

  8. Frances Jenkins

    January 5, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    There should never been any thoughts Greg and Rob have any objectivity about the issues. They are commited to the Democrats and they over look any corruption and hide any bad stories. Wait, do they work for a nonprofit or a public institution? It is okay if it is a Democrat issue or a liberal cause. I will never understand how they look the victims’ families in the eye and explain to them how the criminal will receive less time after he stabbed their daughter 72 times after he raped her and he is white. It makes my blood turn green.

  9. david esmay

    January 5, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    By this point in Bush’s administration, he’d made 61 recess appointments, remember Bolton as ambassador to the UN? What choice does President Obama have, given the extreme degree of Republican obstructionism? The GOP’s never ending quest to hijack any legislation, or take any action that would benfit the majority of Americans is shameful on any level. Frances, I’m not sure if you’re an intern at Civitas playing games, or just a crazy lady that watches Faux news entirely to much.

  10. gregflynn

    January 5, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    Sorry Joe, I don’t see the comparison between state legislative action and federal executive action. This particular petty legislative action was a bill of attainder, targeting one group, brought up after midnight without actionable notice. It was purely political and punitive. Discussion of Obama’s executive orders would be more about the balance of powers than petulance, especially as Dc has it’s own unique kabuki.

  11. Frances Jenkins

    January 5, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    I am just an American with thoughts of my own. I would not live in the Capital City if you gave it to me. I know nothing about Civitas.You are wrong on both guesses. You just can not stand for someone to disagree with you.

  12. david esmay

    January 5, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    Less time? How is life without the possibility of parole less time than death? You’re the one who would shorten his sentence. The death penalty doesn’t deter violent crime, yet all white juries sentence minorities to death at a much higher rate when the victims are white, hence the term “racial injustice”. It doesn’t bother me to be disagreed with, but your arguements are based on emotion and not logic, nor do you support them with evidence.

  13. Frances Jenkins

    January 5, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    Flawed Data

  14. John Burns

    January 6, 2012 at 12:53 am

    Flawed data.

    Thank you, Frances, for showing us the way to the perfect comeback for all occasions. Sheer genius, that is.

  15. Frances Jenkins

    January 6, 2012 at 6:57 am

    Oh Lord, the thinking liberals have arrive with their words of wisdom to save all of us from our weak mindedness. Thank you so much. Your golden egg education is showing, John Burns. The poor and the less fortunate could not get along without you.

  16. Frances Jenkins

    January 7, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    Talk about a leaning process, now everyone knows about the partisan activities of the press, NCAE, NC Policy Watch, Progressive Pulse, and many more. Plainly speaking, no objectivity or desire for the truth. They are just the arm of the Democrat Party.Then to discover that Perdue and Hackney did the exact same thing. Did you mention that Perdue and Hackney did the exact same thing with the lottery vote? No wonder Parker wants this under his belt.

  17. gregflynn

    January 7, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    Nobody here supported the Lottery or how is was passed (under Jim Black, not Hackney). I’m proud that both of my Democratic legislators, Jennifer Weiss, and Janet Cowell, voted against it. Republicans are free to repeal it but I don’t see them calling for it.

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