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De Luca’s definition of liberal

Francis De Luca at the Pope Civitas Secession¬†Institute apparently thinks that Locke Foundation President John Hood and Republican U.S. Rep. Renee Ellmers are “self-described liberals.”

Here’s what De Luca told the News & Observer about the effect on the marriage discrimination amendment of Gov. Perdue’s decision not to seek reelection.

A Democratic primary is “a mixed blessing for anti-marriage people,” De Luca said. “The only group that opposes it are self-described liberals that make up a very small part of the voting public.”

Hood and Ellmers have stated publicly they oppose the amendment, as do many conservatives and libertarians.

11 Comments

  1. HunterC

    January 27, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    Has the Libertarian Party in NC come out with an official statement against 2012’s Amendment One?

    They officially opposed the 2010’s Amendment One (No Felon As Sheriff).

    Anyone know if their position is forthcoming?

  2. Em

    January 27, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    Huh?
    I’m so sick of being labeled ‘liberal’ by the right wing, it’s better to stay in bed all day than read their ravings. My latest read? The Prince, by a guy named Niccolo Machiavelli. Should be required reading for all ‘self-described’ liberals, and the other kind, too.

  3. Disinterested observer

    January 27, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    I think he was talking about polling data…

  4. Mike P.

    January 27, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    He is right: have you seen any of the PPP polls? Three of the four polls PPP has done have found pluralities of Democrats in favor of the amendment, and none have found a majority of Democrats opposed to the amendment. This is not just the result of black voters (who support the amendment strongly and make up half the Democratic base); it is also the result of support from conservative white Democrats. People like Ellmers and Hood are more than made up for by the 45%+ of Democrats who support the amendment.

  5. James

    January 27, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    @ Mike

    Dude, you need to learn to read. DeLuca said that only liberals are against the Marriage Discrimination Amendment. That is demonstrably not true, since Ellmers and Hood are also against it. Many Libertarians and even some conservative Republicans are against it, recognizing the folly of enshrining discrimination into the state constitution.

  6. Disinterested observer

    January 27, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    @ James

    You know as well as anyone that one of Civitas’ primary functions is polling. DeLuca is pretty clearly talking about the implications of the newly open Democratic primary on the prospects for Amendment One’s passage, and saying that Civitas polling shows that the only group consistently opposed to the amendment in NC is self-identified liberals, who do not even make up a majority of the Democratic electorate. Whether or not you agree with the analysis, or the reliability of Civitas polling, is a separate question. I personally think passage for Amendment One just became much tougher (and as a conservative who recognizes the importance promoting strong families to ALL North Carolinians, I hope the amendment crashes and burns).

  7. david esmay

    January 27, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    Disinterested observer, you sound like a lot of my republican friends. We may differ philosophically and on the role of government, but not on civil liberties. Thanks for your input on this issue.

  8. Mike P.

    January 27, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    I guess nobody remembers 2008….it is fair to say that higher black turnout in Florida played a significant role in getting the marriage amendment there past 60%. And whereas only 25% of the FL Democratic is black, 45% of the NC Democratic vote is.

  9. NC Politics

    January 27, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    I think those of us who oppose the amendment are the pro-marriage people.

  10. david esmay

    January 27, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    NC Politics, exactly, there is no doubt those who support this discriminatory piece of legislation are anti-marriage, anti-freedom, they are the anithesis of what they purport to be.

  11. Jeff S

    January 29, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    And yet again we continue to let the “conservatives” determine the language of this debate.

    It should be referred to as “The Amendment to make the ignorant Christian bigots feel better about themselves”.

    I know they’re technically not all christian (or christian pretenders), but it’s simpler this way.