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Genuine expert speaks up on sea-level rise

This morning, geologist Dr. Rob Young of Western Carolina University has an op-ed in Raleigh’s News & Observer that ought to be required reading for the state lawmakers who’ve decided to listen to the global warming deniers/pseudo-scientists on the matter of sea-level rise.

Young decries the notion that a “compromise” being worked out in the General Assembly would call for a new study (to replace the one he helped prepare as a part of a panel of scientists that advises the state Coastal Resources Commission).

“I have grown weary of hearing our legislators suggest that what we need is a new scientific report on sea-level rise with better science in it. I am told that this is the likely outcome of the compromise being worked out between the state House and Senate.

I have a better suggestion. You have a report that was written by the state’s finest scientists and engineers (at no cost to the state, I might add). If the legislature is really interested in finding the best science, then simply send our report, along with any other reports you like (including those from NC-20) to the National Academy of Sciences for review.”

Amen to that.

12 Comments

  1. david esmay

    July 2, 2012 at 8:59 am

    Unfortunately Dr. Young, you’re dealing with the likes of Berger, Tillis, and Sham, reactionary politicians who side with their reactionary ideology. If the evidence of your findings don’t support their ideology, they would have you lie, or simply make up evidence that does.

  2. Frank Burns

    July 2, 2012 at 9:29 am

    Here’s a novel suggestion, let’s make projections based on real data not computer model projections that haven’t been correct yet.

  3. david esmay

    July 2, 2012 at 10:09 am

    What real data would you suggest Frank? Historical? Since geographical and climate changes are occurring at a rapid rate, most historical data doesn’t apply. The Con approach would be to continually look backward for answers to the future.

  4. Doug

    July 2, 2012 at 10:10 am

    Why are we worrying about something we can neither change nor influence with legislation ? Many experts will tell you this is plain rubbish anyway !

  5. Frank Burns

    July 2, 2012 at 10:19 am

    Historical data is the data that is available. At a rate of 1.4 mm per year, I reckon we don’t need to worry about sea level rise. There hasn’t been a single projection that has been correct when computer models have been used. The models greatly over state the problem. That’s not science, it’s conjecture. Science is looking at actual historical data trends which does not add up to a hill of beans.

  6. Doug

    July 2, 2012 at 10:59 am

    You are right on the money Frank ! I’m content to let Esmay wallow around in a confused state trying to somehow connect the GOP to a naturally occurring event.

  7. david esmay

    July 2, 2012 at 11:31 am

    I’m hardly confused as to which party is affiliated with the denial of scientific evidence. Scientific opinion is that the Earth’s climate is warming and humans are causing it through activities that increase greenhouse gases such as deforestation and the consumption of fossil fuels. No scientific body of national, or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion of this. The willful ignorance of cons is always on display when they call into question scientifically accepted ideas. Name some of the many experts of any standing or credibility oppose the findings within the scientific community.

  8. Frank Burns

    July 2, 2012 at 11:44 am

    David,
    You are indeed confused. The scientists have determined that the earth went through a warming trend, there is much disagreement within the scientific community regarding cause. Your theory is that CO2 emissions causes global warming, but the evidence does not support this theory. For the last 15 years there has been no warming while CO2 emissions have gone up. For those on the left, like yourself, belief in mankind causing global warming has become their new religion. The godfather of your theory, James Lovelock now admits this.

  9. david esmay

    July 2, 2012 at 11:54 am

    Those on the left, are you kidding me? According to the National Academy of Sciences, 97% of scientists believe climate change is caused by human activity.

  10. Frank Burns

    July 2, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    David, since when does science depend on consensus? Your silly little polls don’t mean anything to science. Science depends on testing theories with observations. The observations don’t match the wild guesses being made by the climate models. Your figure is misleading which is typical coming from the left.

    http://blog.heartland.org/2011/07/you-call-this-consensus-on-climate-change/

  11. david esmay

    July 2, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    Heartland, give me a frickin break, your silly little neo-con blog is a discredited rag funded by the koch brothers.

  12. david esmay

    July 2, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    My figure is misleading coming from the National Academy of Sciences, and you don’t have explain empiricism to me, although most of the “science’ and “scientists” you refer to don’t apply it.