The explanation/excuse for voter ID shifts

Thom Tillis 2In case you missed it over the weekend, even North Carolina House Speaker Thom Tillis now admits that the problem of voter fraud is illusory. According to Tillis, the reason we need to implement his controversial proposal to mandate photo ID for voting (and thereby threaten the franchise of thousands of citizens) is comfort.

Tillis told an MSNBC host that a voter ID law  “would make nearly three-quarters of the population more comfortable and more confident when they go to the polls.” 

Well, bless their hearts. We certainly wouldn’t want people to be uncomfortable while they’re casting an absentee ballot from their yacht in Monte Carlo — even if it means an 85 year-old in small town North Carolina has to catch a bus and pay money from her meager food budget to get a new birth certificate and state ID so that she can convince the people whe’s been voting with for decades that she is who she says she is.


  1. Frances Jenkins

    March 18, 2013 at 9:49 am

    If someone presented you with the 11,000 people registered on line with proof the registrations were not real, you would still write no election fraud existed. You and the gang of Bluepoint/ Blueprint would swear hope God strike them dead the system has no problems. You have trouble with the truth.
    The Democrats scream too loud to protect a corrupt system. The power grab by the Democrats to control a very, very corrupt system of 140 years of backdoor dealing are part of the pattern. They use the poor and miniorities to hold on to power.

  2. Doug

    March 18, 2013 at 9:55 am

    Still the same argument, just worded differently. As you can see from the polls, most NC residents are concerned that their voting rights are being infringed upon now with the “honor” system we use now. This includes people from the progressive bent as well as normal NC citizens.

    It also baffles me that progressives have not been leading the fight for this what with the way elections have gone the past few elections, of course it would risk revealing a key liberal tactic to win elections.

  3. david esmay

    March 18, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Proof Francis? Your whole spiel is and always has been conjecture and innuendo. How about a little verified substance once in a while.

    The entire GOP voter ID campaign is based on fear, the fear that they will cease to exist within the next ten years because their ideology is in direct conflict the needs of ordinary Americans. It baffles me that conservatives don’t understand nor comprehend this. But in the echo chamber of Wingnut Land it all makes soooo much sense.

  4. Rip

    March 18, 2013 at 11:25 am

    When will the Teabaggers realize that allegations and convictions are two different things?

  5. Darlene Burns

    March 18, 2013 at 11:27 am

    As I recall there was one verified case of voter fraud during the last election. It was an elderly Republican gentleman that tried to vote twice to prove he could and was arrested. It seems to me he proved the opposite.

  6. Ter

    March 18, 2013 at 11:43 am

    How about just go with voter ID, and then we’ll stop pointing out all of the voter fraud? Those supposed “disenfranchised” are still about to get their photo-ID required prescriptions somehow.

  7. Gene Bridges

    March 18, 2013 at 11:50 am

    If someone presented you with the 11,000 people registered on line with proof the registrations were not real, you would still write no election fraud existed.

    Why, yes, Francis, yes we would. I know this *because we’ve been asking for it for years,* but to people like you, paranoia trumps evidence. Of course, not only would we admit it, we’d then go further to point out that the fact that you found proof of it is proof that the fraud exists and our existing laws and procedures are to thank for having detected it so we can do something about it. You see, Francis, the evidence that it exists would be proof that we don’t need Voter ID, not that we do need Voter ID. Why you can’t seem to wrap your paranoid little head around this is what we truly don’t understand, and what we also don’t understand is how you know that voter fraud exists if its so super secret. Seriously, do you get a decoder ring in Lucky Charms cereal for it, or does it come from Ovaltine and have a dual use – decoding messages from Little Orphan Annie? I’ll also point out for you that *you keep attacking a straw man.* We aren’t arguing that voter fraud can’t or doesn’t exist, rather, we argue that, based on the evidence, it doesn’t exist in the epidemic fashion you believe it does, and that our existing laws and procedures are certainly enough. In fact, the only possible way you can even know or intuit the existence of this super secret voter fraud that *you* believe exists is if you have evidence that it does. Seriously, you through out big numbers – so you must know something that nobody else knows. The only way you can even big to craft a law tailored to specific kinds of voter fraud is if you know what the people defrauding us are doing. Also, don’t you think it’s incredibly naive of you to say the things you do? After all, if you can fake a voter registration – for which you do have to prove things like citizenship and residency, let’s say *at the DMV* where we already have to show 2 forms of ID, prove residency, etc, – then don’t you think that the same people that would be able to defraud the system and have to do that wouldn’t either be able to fake the ID we’re going to wind up with as Voter ID or the underlying documents themselves? All you’re really doing is relocating the same problem for the paranoid people like you.

  8. jlp75

    March 18, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    Gene, you must be new around here buddy. Frances deems to know all kinds of super secret things about a wide variety of things that only Democrats seem to be doing wrong. She has yet to actually produce anything of substance. Just more of the same, but I did enjoy your wonderful smack down of her ignorance. Thank you sir.

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