Greed standard trumps LEED standard at the General Assembly

Ready to cry “uncle” yet? The folks running the North Carolina General Assembly hope so.  As Chris Fitzsimon will discuss this afternoon in today’s Fitzsimon File, the reactionary legislation is coming so thick and fast these days at the General Assembly that it’s simply hard to keep up — much less speak out or have input.

It’s no wonder more and more good people are simply speaking with their feet and bodies.

Yet another classic (and likely to be under-reported) example of extreme and destructive legislation simply getting lost in the shuffle on Jones Street is this measure — which would  prevent North Carolina from seeking LEED certification for public buildings. LEED (Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design) the best known and most respected “green” building rating system.  

The measure, which will be heard this afternoon in the House Agriculture Committee at 1:00 pm in 643 LOB, was apparently introduced at the request of North Carolina timber interests.

Interestingly, not only does the proposal stifle the growth of building new, energy efficient buildings, but by disallowing efforts to meet LEED standards, it would also limit a market for other North Carolina industries that contribute to the construction process, including concrete, brick, and metals, to name a few. Often, you see, it’s less environmentally destructive to use some of those products rather than cutting down even more trees.

According to the US Green Building Council of North Carolina, North Carolina ranks 11th nationally with 1,375 commercial buildings that are LEED registered or certified.

The bottom line: As we should have known, when it comes to the common good, the only measurement that matters on Jones Street these days is the greed standard.


  1. Doug

    May 7, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    This certainly makes sense. Back when Guilford county was building a number of high schools they went with the enviroweenie option on at least one that I can recall. By the time they built in all the leading green initiatives of the time it had taken a significant overage of the bond issuance dollars so that many schools that had been promised were not built. Needless to say we voted down the next couple of bond referendums as that was such a debacle and waste of taxpayer money that was never to be recouped. This green initiative stuff is all a waste that sucks taxpayer dollars with little return in the end.

  2. RJ

    May 7, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Link(s) please to “many schools that had been promised were not built.”

  3. gregflynn

    May 7, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    There’s no truth to Doug’s statement. Two of the best green schools in country were built in Guilford County. Northern Guilford Middle and Reedy Fork Elementary. Their construction costs were average and savings are substantial. School construction costs had spiked statewide and particular in urban areas because of material prices and competition for contractors with the booming economy and the large amount of bond funded university projects.

    It should also be noted that there is very little wood used in typical government funded construction projects anyway. Giving veto power to a minor component like this is not very prudent.

  4. david esmay

    May 7, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    Doug, stop neo-con b.s.. I personally built two green schools, one in Alamance and another in Orange. Both were cost efficient, built on time and within budget. The one in Orange is on Ewing Rd., it has a remarkable storm trap system and bio-cells to protect streams, rivers, and lakes, modern cisterns that capture rain water that flushes through the toilets reducing demand on public systems. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about and are just pulling stuff out of your back side.

  5. Doug

    May 7, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    You really have to start using this google thing….I am not doing reasearch for you anymore. I lived in Guilford at the time and as a taxpayer there at the time I know what happened from experience so consider this a gift. From now on, if you are not interested enough to do a web search, then don’t bother commenting.


  6. Doug

    May 7, 2013 at 8:48 pm

    There is actually no truth to your premise. I was there and the school in my area did not get built because the green schools sucked all the dollars out of that bond issuance.

    Not only that, but the costs to run those two schools are actually much higher than touted. Actually higher than other green schools that were built at a later time and cost less. Just click the link and you will see the actual facilities director of Guilford County (you know the guy who is in charge of knowing those things) at the time admit as much.

  7. david esmay

    May 7, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    Everyone in Guilford County knows the Rhino is a Teabagger rag, thankfully it’s publication has come to an end.

  8. Doug

    May 8, 2013 at 10:36 am

    But, you cannot discount the truth when the actual person in charge of the facilities is quoted and on the record as saying they pay significanlty more. Whether you agree with the source….like I do not believe any of the mainstream media WRAL-News Observer etc……at least when they quote someone you know it is from the person. And this article is not in the opinion section but is actual reporting of facts and they have reporters just like this site has “trained” reporters. They all get “trained ” in the journalism schools on how to report. Just because they are not reporting from the same perspective as 95% of the media does not mean they are/were a “rag”. Get the tin foil hat back on dave…..or go back to your hovel until you have something of substance to say other than straw men an platitudes.

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