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Secretary Wos: Here’s your boss signing the bill rejecting federal $ for Medicaid expansion in NC

Over the weekend NC Insurance Commissioner Wayne Goodwin asked for a retraction and apology from NC DHHS Secretary Wos for her claim that Goodwin was responsible for rejecting federal money for expanding Medicaid in NC.  If the Secretary is in any doubt she needs to retract her statement (Reporter Rose Hoban provides the audio), here is the photo of the Secretary’s boss, NC Governor Pat McCrory, signing the bill rejecting the federal money for over 500,000 North Carolinians:

Medicaid bill sign2 - Version 2

11 Comments

  1. Doug

    May 13, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    Don’t forget to note the inaccuracy of the “500,000”.

    First, because North Carolina didn’t expand Medicaid, the near-poor with incomes up to 138 of poverty will now be eligible to enter the exchanges with federal subsidy. This must be a good thing because Obamacare is wonderful.

    Second, now that the federal government is taking on that burden, NC is not on the hook when the whole ponzi scheme blows up….or even for that increasing percentage of dollars for expanded Medicaid that happens a couple of years down the road.

    This decision is definitely the best one for NC as we get all the benefits without having to put up with all the administration and future boodoggles that the Obamacare law promises to make.

  2. Adam Linker

    May 13, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    You don’t get subsidies “up to” 138 percent of federal poverty level. You get subsidies down to 100 percent of federal poverty level. That means the currently ineligible under 100 fpl will still be ineligible. And the reason the ACA expanded Medicaid to 138 fpl is because private insurance is unaffordable, even with subsidies, to families earning 100 percent fpl.

  3. George Greene

    May 13, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    He should just sue her for slander. Even if he IS a public figure.
    Make them dismiss it ON THAT ground, thereby emphasizing
    the fact that they could NOT fight it factually.

    Rather amazing that given that the story is about Sec. Wos lying about Commissioner Goodwin,
    the only comments Republicans have been able to make so far are about the programs rather
    than about the Commissioner.

  4. Doug

    May 13, 2013 at 4:42 pm

    Maybe read another source. Links in this article:

    http://www.carolinajournal.com/daily_journal/display.html?id=10154

  5. gregflynn

    May 13, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    Poor Dougey Boo Boo, can’t tell the difference between a factual statement:
    “the bill rejecting the federal money for over 500,000 North Carolinians”
    and John Hood’s strawman argument:
    “did not, as commonly claimed, deprive 500,000 North Carolinians of health care.”

  6. jlp75

    May 13, 2013 at 6:27 pm

    Like I would believe anything John Hood has to say. To my knowledge, this guy has never worked at a real job a day in his life. He has pretty much been a paid propagandist for most of his career. How much is Art paying you Doug?

  7. Gene Hoglan

    May 13, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    jlp75: Hopefully he’s not paying Doug very much because I don’t think he’s getting his money’s worth.

  8. jlp75

    May 13, 2013 at 9:57 pm

    Good point. Gene At least John Hood is intelligent even if he is selling a bunch of BS.

  9. Doug

    May 14, 2013 at 10:58 am

    That is interesting you guys. Rather than intelligently comment on the issue….why not insult the bearer of some reasoned argument that is actaully in opposition to your views. I guess if you have no true argument for your side that is what you do. One more theorum to put into the Law of Ignorance of Liberalism. Thanks for proving the point.

  10. jlp75

    May 14, 2013 at 11:17 am

    Because Doug, we know who pays John Hood’s bills. Follow the money. Nothing coming out of the Pope propaganda units is well reasoned or worthy of debate. I have spent much time reading their material giving them the benefit of the doubt. However, they start with a premise and cherry pick data to “prove” it. True data driven research starts with a hypothesis and lets the data take the researcher where it may, often refuting the hypothesis. Considering nearly every article these groups (Carolina Journal, John Locke, NC Civitas) publish uses the state the desired answer and find the data to “support” that answer they have long been written off by anyone with an ounce of intelligence. I am sorry you have been fooled. I don’t believe everything I read on this site nor do I believe everything I read on those. Most often you find the true answer is found some where in the middle.

  11. Doug

    May 14, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    Yes truly….follow the money to this site as well. I am sure there are some George Soros dollars flowing to this site. Do you question the stories here? Do you just accept that the forces behind this site and the so called “progressive movement” have the best interests of NC as their motives? If I and conservatives are being led by Pope et. al. the site here is just as guilty. And if you think this site, the NC Justice Center, Blueprint NC and all the related parties do not cherry pick….then you are sadly in the dark. Every point you make in your post is at least (if not more so) as pertinent for the stories I see here and at the other liberal/leftist/progressive/whateverthenameisnow sites that are out there. I too am sorry to see you fooled…if you really think either side is out for the common person you truly are being fooled.

    It is quite funny that you mention it CJ, I can at least think rationally and do not take CJ as full gospel, but they at least ask the questions….which is the key to being informed rather than taking the propaganda at face value. I for one have at least ventured here consistently to see another take on things. Even though almost everything here is the most ludicrous take on almost every issue, I am at least willing to give it a few minutes and leave a comment that hopefully someone will look at and have some intellectual curiosity to go a bit farther, maybe see some of the points of the other side as valid….and maybe that they are not the devil as is so often the vibe here in the comments.

    As far as those comments, my preference is that you would refrian from insulting me and maybe in this example disucss the merits of what is in the article. Sure John comes at it from a take you guys may not have, is it really without merit that he is paid by Art Pope while……is this site without merit because they are funded by the equally divisive Blueprint NC, or the Z Smith Reynolds foundation….or any other of the list of progressive money handlers? Heck, I am sure Soros is involved with at least one of the groups sending this site money….and he is far from an angel with the best intent for NC.