The real outsiders influencing our lawmakers

It ought be pretty clear by now that the folks protesting the regressive policies of the current General Assembly are North Carolinians, not outsiders as Gov. Pat McCrory and some legislative leaders have suggested.

If you want to understand who the real outsiders influencing our lawmakers are, check out the column in this morning’s News & Observer by Alexandra Sirota of the N.C. Budget & Tax Center. Read the whole thing—here is a sample.

Whether it’s shoddily researched reports by supply-side economics guru Arthur Laffer or inflammatory rhetoric during visits from Grover Norquist – he of the infamous “no tax” pledge that hamstrings legislators – the influence of outsiders in North Carolina is pervasive. These people and organizations are trying to make the state the latest test case for extreme measures in the guise of “reform.”




    June 20, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    Ms. Sirota: Excellent op-ed in today’s N&O. This is the kind of policy statement that should be–but unfortunately is not–coming from the NC Democratic Party. I’d love to talk to you about this if you have a minute. –Steve [Editor’s note: phone number removed for privacy] [friend of Lao]

  2. Doug

    June 20, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    Just because the current NCGA does not use hacks like the Budget and Tax center…who are also influenced by outsiders like George Soros and his ilk……you are now publicizing it? It is intellectually dishonest for you guys to raise hysteria when the same types of forces have had a hand in the corrupt studies from outside forces the liberal dems have been putting out for decades to support their side. Why is it now a story? Why are things all rainbows and unicorns when it is your own outsiders influencing the debate?

  3. Jack

    June 20, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    I agree with you Doug. It’s like when the Republican Sarah Palin raised hysteria over “death panel” back in 2009. It was intellectually dishonest of her to do so. Wait! Does “intellectually” apply here? I’ll just say it was dishonest of her.

  4. david esmay

    June 20, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    Dishonest to draw attention to the corrupting influence of ALEC and the likes of Norquist and Laffer? Two completely discredited individuals, who like all conservative politicians, pundits, and economists have continually used the the flawed and debunked research of Reinhart and Rogoff’s, who had the relationship between growth and debt backwards, to support their ridiculous conservative eco-nonsense,(I’ve just coined a new phrase that applies to all right wing economic theories)? The right has been wrong and backasswards on every issue, economic, political, or social, for the last three decadeshttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15038936/RR%20Timepath/Dube_Growth_Debt_Causation.pdf

  5. david esmay

    June 20, 2013 at 7:19 pm

  6. Doug

    June 20, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    How does a comment on how this site ignores the outside influences in the democrat side of things have any connection to someone bringing up the fact that Obamacare will have death panels (rationing, the board to decide if you get healthcare…whatever you want to call it)?

    Just so you know, this post is on outside influences in NC, thing George Soros, AFL-CIO, etc on the liberal side…..you know those guys are all up in the democrats’ business here. Heck, just look at the funding sources of this website and you will see some of the names that are outside influences in NC liberal politics.

  7. NoGOPinNC

    June 21, 2013 at 10:50 am

    Doug can you say ALEC? Our new leaders are too lazy or stupid to come up with their own destructive policies, so they just use what their outside groups spoon feed them…that my friend is not only the most corrupt, but also the slackest way to govern…..what exactly are we paying these bozos for? and why do GOP public employees need to be paid so much more than their democratic predecessors? Man NCs GOP is rotten to its racist lil core.

  8. Jack

    June 21, 2013 at 11:28 am

    First off insurance companies already make decisions as to how certain care is doled out and in some cases the decision threatens the life of a policy holder because the coverage for life saving treatment is denied. Insurance companies can be death panels.

    As to outside influences in NC. Haven’t you been paying attention to how the world works? Outside influences in politics is a matter of course, for example, Cleopatra’s influence on Julius Caesar. History is full of such examples.

    The intellectually dishonest is your self-righteous indignation about “outsiders” when it is a large part of yesterday’s and today’s political scene.

  9. Doug

    June 21, 2013 at 4:17 pm

    Where did you come up with something on insurance companies? Where is that coming from? This post is on outside influence.

    I do agree with the part where you are on topic. I for one know it is a fact of political life, but I do not see where I am indignant about it. On the contrary, this site is in the self-righteous indignation mode when they go into hysterics as if it is something new the GOP has introduced to NC.

    I think we are saying the same thing…but something is escaping you. I do not know how to express it in any simpler terms though so we may be at a road block.

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