1. LayintheSmakDown

    August 21, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    It will be intersting to see the data behind this. Is it taking into account that people can no longer get high deductible plans that used to be in a more affordable range? It is likely it is excluding those from the population since most of the liberal/progressives are doing that in order to skew reality to their story. The fact is if you used to have one of those plans and could afford it, you are now forced to take a high priced product that includes services you did not need in the past at a higher price….so costs are actually going up.

  2. gregflynn

    August 21, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    Why don’t you go and “see the data behind this” using the link provided before speculating about it?

  3. david esmay

    August 21, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    LSD, hallucinating again? From all the info I’ve gathered, the states that have implemented the ACA have seen their rates dropped substantially.

  4. Rob Schofield

    August 21, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    Just so our readers are fully informed, the author of the above comment as “Layinthesmakdown” is the same person who has commented several hundred times on The Progressive Pulse over the last couple years as “Doug.”

  5. Carolyn Haywood

    August 21, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    Not sure why you believe people can’t get high deductible plans. I work at United Healthcare and I can assure you that those are the plans most people get offered to them by employers. In fact, at UHC, those are the only plans I have to choose from.

    I am not “forced” to get anything.

  6. Jim Wiseman

    August 21, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    It will be interesting to see if this is still the case a year from now.

  7. Alan

    August 21, 2013 at 6:46 pm

    Since Obamacare was modeled on MA’s Romneycare,, which proved to be quite successful, one has to assume it’ll be just as good for the entire US as it was in MA.

    I guess we have to thank the Heritage Foundation where the concept originated :-).

  8. Jim Wiseman

    August 21, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    Yes, thank you, Obamacare. Unless you work for UPS, which can’t afford insurance for spouses because of the rising cost of healthcare.

  9. gregflynn

    August 21, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    “15,000 working spouses eligible for coverage at their own employers would be excluded from the UPS plan in 2014.”

    “Spouses of UPS employees who don’t work — or who are not offered coverage by their own employer — will get to stay on the UPS plan.” – CNN

  10. Doug

    August 21, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    Just so you know, It has not been for “several years” it has been maybe one year. I only found out about this site from Carolinaplotthound.com which I also found just over a year ago.

  11. Doug

    August 21, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    You need to check the facts on Obamascare. The high deductible ($5000+) plans are going away as out of pocket limits and deductibles are decreased and required coverage is increased…..just read around it is a known fact. And the other fact is you WILL be forced to get insurance or of course defacto pay the premium on your tax form….that is the crux of Obamascare.

  12. Doug

    August 21, 2013 at 8:57 pm

    Kaiser even admits they cannot compare the past to future since there are so many variables…so their graphs are by default lies:


    Here is just one link from a Google search on the high deductibles

  13. Rob Schofield

    August 21, 2013 at 9:31 pm

    Thanks Doug – If you’ll read the comment you’ll see I said “last couple years” and “several hundred” comments. Glad you’re back without the disguise.

  14. Jim Wiseman

    August 22, 2013 at 7:05 am

    And the hits keep coming – now UVA.

  15. Alan

    August 22, 2013 at 9:44 am

    If Doogie and team use more fake identities, they can create an illusion there’s millions of like minded people in NC. Not so.

    If you see a posting from ‘Captain America’ you’ll know where it came from…

  16. gregflynn

    August 22, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Re: UVA “no longer offering spousal coverage to those able to obtain insurance elsewhere

    So now the right wing is complaining that Obamacare doesn’t go far enough because it doesn’t require that working spouses can choose between each other’s health care plans when both are covered by a plan?

  17. LayintheSmakDown

    August 22, 2013 at 11:11 am

    Things are not looking too good Jim, there have been so many stories recently of the massive premium increases that this post fully represents the Ignorance of Liberalism. You can’t look at the news without seeing it, you know it is bad when the state controlled outlets are finally reporting it….I guess this is what we find out when we read the bill.

  18. gregflynn

    August 22, 2013 at 11:16 am

    LayintheSmakDoug, so now Fox News is one of the “state controlled outlets”? My advice to you is to use only batteries because those things in the walls are “state controlled outlets”.

  19. Posquita

    August 22, 2013 at 11:27 am

    I work for local government and we used to have fantastic insurance that had a low premium for carrying children and covered at 90/10 w/ a $2500 deductible. Imagine my surprise when this year we were only given one option and that was 60/40 coverage with a $10K deductible!!!! We had the weekend to decide to take it or leave it….hard to believe Obamacare doesn’t have something to do with it. I don’t mind paying a little more so others can have some but in this economy when we haven’t had raises in over 5 years it seems like bad timing.

  20. Alan

    August 22, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    I guess ‘The Ignorance of Liberalism’, was a core class at Liberty??

  21. Jim Wiseman

    August 22, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    If Obamacare is so great, why is BHO handing out exemptions like doughnuts at a “Moral” Monday protest?
    Socialism: So good, it’s mandatory.

  22. david esmay

    August 22, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    Here’s your problem Jim, like most neo-cons, you think that redistributing the wealth from small businesses and the middle class into the hands of the investor class is capitalism and civilization is socialism. The mistake most often made by those on the right is they firmly believe in socialism for the wealthy and corporations, and capitalism for the rest of us.

  23. Alan

    August 22, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    The folks who here who post comments about socialism have absolutely no concept of what socialism actually is. To them, it’s just another buzzword to through around, with little in the way of knowledge as to what it represents. Have no fear righties, the USA is nowhere near socialism, no matter how many times you scream about it. You have zero experience or knowledge of anything socialist, yet you through that word around like you’re knowledgable on the topic.

  24. david esmay

    August 22, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    Alan, I liken it to the Dunning-Kruger effect.

  25. Alex

    August 22, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    I think the word is “throw” Alan.

  26. Alex

    August 22, 2013 at 6:01 pm

    david, I thought maybe you were referring to flynn !

  27. Alan

    August 22, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    Well Alex, excuse my hasty typing & lack of spell-checking. I do bet however, that I am better qualified than you, which I honestly don’t think would (or is that wood?) be that difficult based on your recent postings.

  28. Alan

    August 22, 2013 at 11:33 pm


    Good one! I must confess, I had not heard of that delusionary disorder up till now, but it fits perfectly.

    (spell-checked this time to keep Alex happy).

  29. Alan

    August 22, 2013 at 11:43 pm


    Henceforth, all future postings must reference those affected by the Dunning-Kruger theory. This would be similar to other postings that constantly state “The Ignorance of Liberalism”, or “state controlled media”. Just trying to achieve a “fair and balanced” approach on this forum :-).

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