Lack of process, public input on gun bill the latest outrage on Jones Street

GunsAs long as North Carolina is going to regulate guns about as effectively as a broken down banana republic, it might as well pass laws in a similar way.

That’s about the only conclusion that one can draw about the attitudes of the folks running the General Assembly after this afternoon’s announcement by North Carolina House Speaker Tim Moore that the House will press ahead with a new and thus far undisclosed version of controversial gun legislation. Not only did Moore issue an edict that the bill will be taken up in the House Rules Committee tomorrow morning (a committee that’s generally supposed to deal with matters related to managing the affairs of the House rather than substantive matters like gun regulation), he also proclaimed that it would pass the committee and then be voted on on the House floor a few hours later.

Good to know that tomorrow’s committee will be so open and honest.

No word yet on whether Moore will allow anyone other than supporters of the bill to speak at tomorrow kangaroo committee meeting. Given that the outcome has already been decided (as well as past experience in the Judiciary Committee with this dreadful proposal) there seems to be little reason to get one’s hopes up. Those wanting to listen in to the “debate” in committee tomorrow should visit the General Assembly’s audio broadcasts page and click on Committee Room 1228 at 9:00 a.m.



  1. joe

    May 12, 2015 at 8:03 pm

    Good to know we need corrupt New Yorkers to tell us here in NC how to handle our guns…………

  2. MrApple

    May 12, 2015 at 8:04 pm

    So if they do away with the Jim Crow throwback, the NC Pistol Permit, I guess the criminals will have one less thing to simply ignore when getting their illegal guns. It’s not like the criminals were getting the permits in the first place.

  3. Jay Bree

    May 12, 2015 at 8:08 pm

    Try and remember this:

    Owning and carrying a gun is as much a right as Freedom of Religion.

    Repeat that a while, then try writing a balanced article as a novel change of behavior.

  4. Jim Wiseman

    May 12, 2015 at 8:31 pm

    “Banana republic?” Indeed. Gun owners have given away most of our rights, and the left wonders why we won’t compromise. We’re not giving any more away, and will be taking them back.

  5. Chuck

    May 12, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    What part of “shall not be infringed” do you not understand?

    The real problem is that the GA has not worded their efforts correctly. Yes, they want to do away with the background check IN ITS CURRENT FORM.

    The TRUTH is that background checks won’t be put aside altogether. They will simply switch from the state level to the nationwide NICS system – which 40 other states already use. Might I add…these states use them without blood in the streets from thugs taking over, too.

    People need to be informed what is and is not in HB562. A gun free-for-all is not in HB562. Restoration of our 2nd Amendment rights and a more thorough background check is at least implied.

    Remember, thugs don’t care about gun laws. They will have weapons (guns, knives, pipes, whatever) whether they are legal or not.

    Having a well armed citizenry is a deterrent to crime. Even the liberal elite hire ARMED bodyguards.

  6. Alan

    May 12, 2015 at 10:03 pm

    I struggle to comprehend exactly what “gun rights” have been given away, and for that matter, what needs to be taken back??? This isn’t the wild west anymore, the gun lobby needs to acknowledge some level of gun control, and with it public safety, needs to be accommodated. The United States remains the only (semi-civilized) nation on the planet that cannot, or will not, accept that dangerous firearms need to have SOME level of control.

    Needless to say, this post will solicit some foaming at the mouth 2nd amendment absolutists who think the guv’mint is out to get them. No wonder the rest of the world laughs at us.

  7. William Campbell

    May 12, 2015 at 10:24 pm

    “…shall NOT be infringed…”

  8. JamesB

    May 13, 2015 at 5:52 am

    William Campbell, if you are going to randomly quote phrases from the Bill of Rights, why not, “Congress shall make no law”? Because it makes no sense, perhaps?

  9. LayintheSmakDown

    May 13, 2015 at 9:50 am

    Wow Alan, you are the height of hypocrisy. You ask what gun rights have been given up then pontificate on gun control. That is rich, even for your usual insane crazy talk.

  10. Alan

    May 13, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    Like I said, my comments would bring out the crazy absolutists, and you didn’t disappoint.

    So, please educate us all on precisely what gun rights have been given up? I’d love to know, but realize you are always unable to provide any tangible supporting data. Quoting Faux News, or linking to pro-gun lobby websites doesn’t count.

  11. LayintheSmakDown

    May 13, 2015 at 5:44 pm

    Faux news? I would never quote CNNCBSMSNBCNBC or WRAL.

  12. Alan

    May 13, 2015 at 6:20 pm

    As expected, no tangible supporting data.

  13. LayintheSmakDown

    May 14, 2015 at 11:32 am

    As usual….more jibberjabber from Alan. One more post he is not last on….no window cube for him this week!

  14. Alan

    May 14, 2015 at 2:57 pm

    Oh look, I get to post last. This thread is closed. Sorry LSD, no gold star for you this week.

  15. LayintheSmakDown

    May 16, 2015 at 10:03 am

    Awwww man. Alan gets a picture for his cube now. I gotta stop slackin off.

  16. Alan

    May 16, 2015 at 10:39 pm

    Still posted last, I get the gold star.

  17. LayintheSmakDown

    May 17, 2015 at 5:27 pm

    Are you closing this thread too?

  18. NC Darlin

    May 18, 2015 at 3:03 pm

    You two go get a room. This is just silly.

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